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Possible Implications of Faulty US Technical Intelligence in the Damascus Nerve Agent Attack
MIT Science, Technology, and Global Security Working Group ^ | January 14, 2014 | Richard Lloyd (Former UN Weapons Inspector) and Theodore A. Postol (Professor MIT)

Posted on 01/16/2014 3:57:53 AM PST by Mount Athos

The Syrian Improvised Chemical Munitions that Were Used in the August 21, Nerve Agent Attack in Damascus Have a Range of About 2 Kilometers.

The UN Independent Assessment of the Range of the Chemical Munition Is in Exact Agreement with Our Findings.

This Indicates That These Munitions Could Not Possibly Have Been Fired at East Ghouta from the “Heart”, or from the Eastern Edge, of the Syrian Government Controlled Area Shown in the Intelligence Map Published by the White House on August 30, 2013.

This mistaken Intelligence Could Have Led to an Unjustified US Military Action Based on False Intelligence.

A Proper Vetting of the Fact That the Munition Was of Such Short Range Would Have Led to a Completely Different Assessment of the Situation from the Gathered Data.

Whatever the Reasons for the Egregious Errors in the Intelligence, the Source of These Errors Needs to Be Explained.

If the Source of These Errors Is Not Identified, the Procedures that Led to this Intelligence Failure Will Go Uncorrected, and the Chances of a Future Policy Disaster Will Grow With Certainty.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: agitprop; falseflag; notascholarlypaper; powerpoint; pravda; russia; syria
Full report linked at:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1006045/possible-implications-of-bad-intelligence.pdf

1 posted on 01/16/2014 3:57:53 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

just wow


2 posted on 01/16/2014 4:01:40 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Mount Athos

This is this type of intelligence report: tell me what I want to hear and I will not question what you say. Der leader wanted a Reichstag burning so someone gave him the matchbook that was used to start it.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 4:02:55 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

Comimg from MIT, not necesarily a bastion of right wing patriotism .. I’d be cautios how I digest this information


4 posted on 01/16/2014 4:07:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Mount Athos

As was always suspected, this was the Free Syrian Army terrorists trying to draw the US into eradicating Assad for their Caliphate. Ya know, John McCain’s buddies.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 4:09:20 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Mount Athos

Theodore Postol is a Flat Earth lefty who has been challenging the efficacy of missile defense for decades even in the face of evidence that it does work. I’m agnostic as to what the Syrian government did or did not do, but this report won’t shed any light on the subject, given the co-author’s tendency to ignore the facts when it suits him. I’m also of the view that the Syrian regime is the lesser of two evils, but this “report” is probably a complete waste of bandwidth, if you’re interested in the facts.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 4:10:12 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Mount Athos

Nothing that eminates from our government disguised as information can be trusted. The facts and truth comes out in drips. They even have “Smokey The Bear” telling US 9 out of 10 forest fires are started by people,.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 4:12:36 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: knarf

Good point about MIT, but this says the Regime is wrong, if I’m reading it correctly.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 4:16:38 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Theodore Postol is a Flat Earth lefty who has been challenging the efficacy of missile defense for decades even in the face of evidence that it does work. “

Looks like you’re right. Thanks for the tip.
Also noticed something in this org’s other writings that was dismissive of the threat from Iran.


9 posted on 01/16/2014 4:22:50 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Another obamaroid lie!


10 posted on 01/16/2014 4:23:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Faulty US Technical Intelligence”.......Really?

There is no end to the phont “possibilities” the doumbo people will dream up to avoid the truth.

IMO, Benghazi was like a drug deal gone bad and when/if the real truth ever comes out we will find that odumbo and hitlary are both up to their necks in the cover up.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 4:30:59 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Mount Athos
Don't trouble bammy with facts. He wants/needs to get us involved in a war in the middle east. He needs it to distract us from his disasters here at home so that his fellow socialist 'rats don't get slaughtered at the polls this November.

But don't worry. He still has time to start a war between Israel and Iran, or get us involved in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya or any number of other places. Then you'll see a parade of 'rats turned hawks who support bammy and have donned the trappings of patriotism...

12 posted on 01/16/2014 4:53:13 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Mount Athos
PP

13 posted on 01/16/2014 4:58:28 AM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Mount Athos

There has been NO intelligence.

The US gov’t armed al Qaeda after the 911 Atrocities
and ignored warning as they created the Boston Atrocity
and have entered the USA through the porous borders.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 5:03:29 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: PghBaldy
Honestly ... I have no idea who's doing what and why anymore.

I think this is why they don't want old guys in the military .... we'd just say "phuque it" and shoot everything in sight.

15 posted on 01/16/2014 5:23:36 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

LOL. Luckily, Obama shows no willingness to get involved (in a major way) with Syria.


16 posted on 01/16/2014 7:40:53 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Shortly after the attack, some analysts said they doubted if the identified rockets could have carried enough nerve agent to have caused the mass casualties. Mr. Lloyd and Dr. Postol say their analysis explains how the misidentification of a central rocket part resulted in the excessively small payload estimates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/rockets-in-syrian-attack-carried-large-payload-of-gas-experts-say.html?_r=0

Postol says that while he cannot say what the performance of Iron Dome was in Operation Pillar of Defence, “all the available evidence unambiguously indicates a drastically lower level of performance than the 84% claimed by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF).”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21751766

and yet

Why Israel’s “Iron Dome” Missile-Defense System Actually Works
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/507736/why-israels-iron-dome-missile-defense-system-actually-works/

Hating Missile Defense
…and smearing it, too: The media’s favorite anti-SDIer
http://www.heymiller.com/2011/03/hating-missile-defense/

Why missile defense won’t work
by Theodore A. Postol
April 2002
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/missile/etc/postol.html

A Flawed and Dangerous U.S. Missile Defense Plan
George N. Lewis and Theodore A. Postol
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2010_05/Lewis-Postol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol#Allegations_of_research_misconduct

http://www.physics.utah.edu/~detar/phys4910/readings/ethics/Postol_TechRev_april2002.htm


17 posted on 01/25/2014 6:37:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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