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To: Greenperson
Strange thing happened this morning, I read your blog again and decided we didn't really know a great deal about C Phillip Hollstein, who swam to shore; his image appears on this google page:

GOOGLE PAGE LINK

When you click on the image, that brings up an article and a video:

PLANE CRASH SURVIVOR PRAISES PILOT

Which content disappears a few seconds afterwards - and try as I might, I can't download the content.

I thought to bring this to your attention, because of the images you have on your blog, the person in the water wearing the white background-printed short sleeved shirt in your image collection on your blog, is shown (the shirt is)sitting across from Rosa Keys and is probably the same one you show with a pony tail in the water - so the man on the wing in the brown shirt can't be Jacob Keys, can he?

In the article, which I was able to quickly read before it disappeared from view, C Phillip Hollister says he provided Fuddy with an inflated lifejacket...so I guess that's him swimming away from the aircraft while Yamamoto is looking after her.

But as Hollstein has gray hair and the man in the water with the ponytail has to be Keys, the man on the wing can't be Jacob Keys, he has to be one of the unidentified tourists...whose brown sleeve appears on the right hand side inside the aircraft.

655 posted on 01/18/2014 2:52:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: butterdezillion; Greenperson

That image must have been taken very soon after the plane went down, there seem to be at least still two people who haven't entered the water yet..

This image you enlarged and darkened shows the pattern on the white sleeve of the shirt, seen next to Rosa Keys:

The man in the brown shirt on the wing and the woman without a jacket appear to remain unidentfied.

IMAGES SOURCE BUTTERDEZILLION

656 posted on 01/18/2014 3:07:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

I was able to read that page and checked on archive.org to make sure that the page hasn’t been changed since you looked at it. Holstein said he helped the male of a couple get his life vest inflated and on; the guy was holding onto a seat cushion and couldn’t get the life jacket open.

I was able to save some images off the ABC video and make some sense out of some of the people. The color of the shirt for the guy next to Rosa Key and MW1 threw me off, but I was able to look more closely at his elbow, and the elbow has lines on it that show up even when the elbow is in sunlight, which makes me think it is Jacob Key, who has a spiderweb tattoo around his left elbow. The shirt must just appear darker because of the water.

The image that I’ve got of Jacob Key inflating his life jacket is definitely Jacob Key, and on the video you can see that Rosa was underneath the wing at that point. She appears and is next to Jacob shortly after that. As the people came out of the plane and grabbed onto the wing they slid down the wing to make room for others, so Jacob and Rosa ended out at the end of the wing to make room for Fuddy and Yamamoto.

Holstein went toward the tail of the plane rather than down the wing. His face can be seen at the tail end, with a jacket he’d not yet put on and then a little later with it seeming to be on him.

There seems to be a man with short hair and dark skin in a dark maroon cut-away t-shirt behind Rosa while she and Jacob were on the wing trying to figure out how to inflate the life jackets. Neither Rosa nor Jacob have their jacket inflated when they’re on the wing by MW1 and Rosa was bobbing down into the water then. Holstein was swimming towards them; I think Rosa may have been the person he helped get the jacket inflated.

Whoever the guy with the dark skin was, he might have been the one Kawasaki held onto, although he didn’t yet have a life jacket on when he was behind Rosa. Or Holstein could have swum back to help Kawasaki. The guy with Kawasaki appears to have his arms in swimming position; maybe it was Holstein and he pulled Kawasaki to one of the cushions. The guy with dark skin might be the 70-year-old Asian guy.

There were 2 people who got off the plane before Puentes - one of them a guy in blue jean shorts and a bluish-purple shirt. I’d have to go look at that again to see for sure. I wonder if that was Holstein. I wonder when that photo of him was taken - if it was taken the day of the crash. He’s got a blue shirt on there. I’d have to get out my son’s laptop to try to see the video, looking for clues.

I may have a shot of Yamamoto helping Fuddy into the water. If he was in the seat across from her he was wearing a maroonish-red shirt, which would explain why there is a purplish tinge around him as well as around Fuddy.

Well, I’ve been at this longer than I should have. I still need to prepare for Sunday school tomorrow and get the kids to bed.


663 posted on 01/18/2014 8:10:05 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Strange thing happened this morning, I read your blog again”
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You must mean butterdezillion’s blog, ‘cause I don’t have one.


671 posted on 01/19/2014 9:21:09 AM PST by Greenperson
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