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To: Fred Nerks

I was able to read that page and checked on archive.org to make sure that the page hasn’t been changed since you looked at it. Holstein said he helped the male of a couple get his life vest inflated and on; the guy was holding onto a seat cushion and couldn’t get the life jacket open.

I was able to save some images off the ABC video and make some sense out of some of the people. The color of the shirt for the guy next to Rosa Key and MW1 threw me off, but I was able to look more closely at his elbow, and the elbow has lines on it that show up even when the elbow is in sunlight, which makes me think it is Jacob Key, who has a spiderweb tattoo around his left elbow. The shirt must just appear darker because of the water.

The image that I’ve got of Jacob Key inflating his life jacket is definitely Jacob Key, and on the video you can see that Rosa was underneath the wing at that point. She appears and is next to Jacob shortly after that. As the people came out of the plane and grabbed onto the wing they slid down the wing to make room for others, so Jacob and Rosa ended out at the end of the wing to make room for Fuddy and Yamamoto.

Holstein went toward the tail of the plane rather than down the wing. His face can be seen at the tail end, with a jacket he’d not yet put on and then a little later with it seeming to be on him.

There seems to be a man with short hair and dark skin in a dark maroon cut-away t-shirt behind Rosa while she and Jacob were on the wing trying to figure out how to inflate the life jackets. Neither Rosa nor Jacob have their jacket inflated when they’re on the wing by MW1 and Rosa was bobbing down into the water then. Holstein was swimming towards them; I think Rosa may have been the person he helped get the jacket inflated.

Whoever the guy with the dark skin was, he might have been the one Kawasaki held onto, although he didn’t yet have a life jacket on when he was behind Rosa. Or Holstein could have swum back to help Kawasaki. The guy with Kawasaki appears to have his arms in swimming position; maybe it was Holstein and he pulled Kawasaki to one of the cushions. The guy with dark skin might be the 70-year-old Asian guy.

There were 2 people who got off the plane before Puentes - one of them a guy in blue jean shorts and a bluish-purple shirt. I’d have to go look at that again to see for sure. I wonder if that was Holstein. I wonder when that photo of him was taken - if it was taken the day of the crash. He’s got a blue shirt on there. I’d have to get out my son’s laptop to try to see the video, looking for clues.

I may have a shot of Yamamoto helping Fuddy into the water. If he was in the seat across from her he was wearing a maroonish-red shirt, which would explain why there is a purplish tinge around him as well as around Fuddy.

Well, I’ve been at this longer than I should have. I still need to prepare for Sunday school tomorrow and get the kids to bed.


663 posted on 01/18/2014 8:10:05 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

thanks for all that, I’m almost sorry to bring it up all over again, just wanted to check with you who that person in the brown shirt might have been.


664 posted on 01/18/2014 8:15:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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