Skip to comments.Liz Cheney Dropping Out of Primary
Posted on 01/05/2014 8:40:51 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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Now the media will be forced to stop pretending this is one of the “Top 5 most hotly contested Senate races of 2014” (Liz Cheney was consistently down by 30 points but they kept pushing that meme)
It’s her sister who is gay, right?
I have no doubt that support for dumping Enzi wasn't based on Liz Cheney's conservativism. Even the most gung-ho Liz supporters here gave up trying to sell as a "true conservative" a few weeks after she announced her candidacy and her record was exposed. Instead, they'd just constantly demonize Enzi. It got to the point that many of them wouldn't even ADMIT she was running.
I'm pretty their judgment that "Enzi Must Go" came from this:
Democrats expect their candidates to lie every time they breathe, conservatives want to hear candidates who actually believe in conservatism. Crazy, right?
Do they believe in making lots of money for Halliburton?
The Great One!
Please, that isn't serving in the military, nor is being Commander in Chief, Clinton, and Obama, and Cheney are not now, veterans.
We understood him, and we disagree.
Moving left is wrong.
Liz Cheney was as GOPe as they come in her positions. By comparison, Enzi is a conservative stalwart. Amnesty is a good example of this.
That so many Freepers got taken in by her ‘shake things up’ message is unfortunate. She should have run in VA where her politics are a fit and she could have added to the cause in Congress. Now she would have much less chance of succeeding there.
That’s a shame, but her failure in WY is a good thing for tea party insurgents, because she would have been just one more example of an Establishment player who slipped in mouthing the tea party line. It is a good thing IMO that that didn’t happen. “Shaking things up” by trying to bigfoot over a good footsoldier as a (figuratively) former general’s daughter is not the shaking up we need.
No she didn’t.
The idea that she was going to be some sort of “outsider” is laughable to anyone who has done their homework on Lizzy.
I just got a campaign mailer from her. Funny thing: There’s a pic of her with one of her kids... but no husband. Why?
Because when you start digging into who her husband is, you come to see she’s one half of one of the ultimate DC insider power couples. Her hubby has written some truly horrible legislation for the Congress to pass, including lots of the idiotic nonsense for the TSA and Homeland Insecurity.
From my perspective as a Wyoming resident and voter, my reaction is “good riddance to bad rubbish.”
Exactly. The only people who are going to be crying in their beer are the neo-cons who want to send out treasure and blood to die for the causes of Israel and their lobby in DC.
If Jews in the US are so concerned with the future of Israel, then American Jews can contribute money and blood to the future of Israel first, and if they run out, then they can come looking for assistance.
OK, I believe I’ve spelled this out for you before. I’ll spell it out for you again.
Such a person (a bomb-thrower, as you term them) will not get elected in Wyoming. It isn’t going to happen, thanks for playing. That’s not what people elect in politicians at a local, state or federal level around here. It just isn’t going to happen at any level.
If Lizzy had been positioning herself as a bomb-thrower, she would have lost. Sure, that stuff sells well on Hannity’s program to the audience of people who are as dim as Hannity, it might sell in Texas, but it doesn’t sell here in Wyoming. Ted Cruz probably couldn’t win an election here in Wyoming unless he’s running against a red-diaper baby from NYC.
This is the state that likes quiet competence, not braggarts and blowhards. Enzi has been serving at various levels of political office for a long time in the state, and has been mayor of Gillette, which means he knows the coal issues, knows the CEO’s of the huge mines out there in Campbell County on a first-name basis.
Lizzy running around Wyoming claiming she was “concerned” about Obama’s war on coal was amusing. This is a woman who has probably never seen the inside of a coal mine and had obviously been fed a number of position papers from some DC think-tank on the issue. That coal severance tax revenue is a Big Friggin’ Deal to this state, and people in the state aren’t about to put a rank amateur into the US Senate who knows only what some bunch of dim-bulb academics from a DC think tank have told her about Powder River Basin coal.
Lizzy’s mission was thus: Get elected to a safe GOP seat to secure another seat in the US Senate for the Israel lobby. That’s it. That’s what she loved to flap her soup-cooler about: Foreign policy. Wanna know what voters in Wyoming don’t give a ripe fig about any more? Foreign policy, especially in the Ivy League disaster zone popularly known as “The Middle East.”
Put in a real conservative for the primary.
Glad to read this. Liz Cheney is the very definition of RINO. Remember her foreign service? I do.
In our previous exchange I outline my thinking about Senatorial offices in America today. In short, Chuck Schumer does as much harm to the people of Wyoming as he does to the people of New York. In other words, the federal government intrudes on every area of everyone's life and a senator is not limited in the scope of the good or the harm that he can do to the state which he "represents."
By way of coincidence, Mark Levin was on C-SPAN last night speaking about the need to restore the election of senators to the state legislatures so that the balance of power in the federal system could be restored to the states. While senators are only notionally representatives of their state, at least as far as the application of their power rather than the source of their powers is concerned, every American should be acutely interested in every Senate race.
Therefore, my observations concerning Liz Cheney have a selfish perspective, just as those who vote their own mining interests in Wyoming have a selfish perspective, I want a conservative movement to stop what is happening in America and to America. I think you've probably seen my other posts on this thread to that effect (see reply #63).
If you take a look at jjsheridan5's post (# 107) you will see him express the opinion that Liz Cheney has lost out in Wyoming for reasons that do not apply to the southern states, presumably South Carolina and Tennessee etc. This may surprise you, but I hope that is the case because I do not want to see come to pass what I expressed in my first reply in this thread that her defeat presages a series of failures by the tea party to reform the establishment of the Republican Party. I would much prefer that the reasons for Lynn Cheney's defeat are peculiar to Wyoming and to her and her husband personally, rather than representative of the national sentiment.
I certainly hope that we don't hear from voters in Tennessee and South Carolina about how their peculiar interests mean that they should return Alexander and Graham to the United States Senate. Similarly, I hope we do not learn that Cheney's failures come from a national mood sustaining the establishment and further that they do not come from a failure to raise money on the national level which has been denied her and diverted to Senator Enzi by Karl Rove.
>> peculiar interests
e.g., Arizona’s McCain...
You’re right. It’s not exactly local notwithstanding your axiom concerning racial politics...
I have posts going back perhaps 10 years to the effect that the United States should disengage its foreign policy from Israel. I do not understand why we think it in our national interest to align ourselves with a few million Israelis against hundreds of millions of Arabs with so much oil.
To avoid the charge of anti-Semitism and indifference to the fate of our ally, I suggested that we offer citizenship to every Israeli who wants it but that we do not commit ourselves to war on Israel's terms. Having said that, I note that at present our interests seem to be congruent with Israel's in stopping Iran from getting the bomb but that is now a moot issue because if the Israelis don't stop Iran, Obama certainly will not.
Israel is on its own concerning the bomb now.
It's interesting to note that racial demographics in Wyoming permit that to be a conservative state. Racial demographics in Rhode Island, as a contrary example, impel that state toward leftism.
I appreciate your comments on this thread.
Your opinion appears to be the right one to me.
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