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Obama Announces Executive Orders to Limit Gun Ownership – US Veterans Hardest Hit
Gateway Pundit ^ | January 4, 2014 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 01/04/2014 3:50:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The White House inched forward Friday with two new executive actions aimed at boosting the federal background-check system. The new laws will make it more difficult for “anyone who may pose a danger to themselves or others” to purchase a gun.

NewsMax reported:

Under the measures announced by the White House, the Justice Department will propose changes to the federal background check system to clarify who under U.S. law is prohibited from possessing a firearm because of mental health problems.

The Department of Health and Human Services also will propose a regulation aimed at making it easier for states to submit information about the mentally ill to the federal system, without blocking all people who seek mental health treatment from owning guns.

“The administration is committed to making sure that anyone who may pose a danger to themselves or others does not have access to a gun,” the White House said in a statement. “The federal background check system is the most effective way to assure that such individuals are not able to purchase a firearm from a licensed gun dealer.”

The new laws may make it even more difficult for US veterans to own guns.

US veterans started receiving letters from the government last year informing them that they are disabled and not allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. If the veteran does decide to purchase a firearm he will by fined, imprisoned or both.

This comes on page 2 of the VA letter.

The letter to veterans stated:

“A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”

Obmaa’s latest executive orders will no doubt make it even harder for US veterans to own or purchase firearms.

It’s Barack’s way of saying, “Thanks for serving.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 0homo; banglist; bhofascism; dictatorship; feralgovernment; guncontrol; gunsvets; obama; obamaeo; obamaguns; obamavets; targetingvets; thanks4serving; tyranny; veterans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A friend of mine served incountry South Vietnam 1968-1969. He saw lots of action there but he is, to me, stable as can be, and owns lots of firearms and has his own metal shop.

Not long ago he decided to have a public auction to get rid of lots of his tools and excess junk. When the VA found out about it, they went bonkers and were immediately on his case to make sure he was not going to commit suicide.

He laughed when he told me this. I believe he had better keep looking over his shoulder as some overzealous goberment agent might decide he needs to add my friend’s gun collection to his own, and is looking for an excuse to pounce.


21 posted on 01/04/2014 4:07:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Worth the read and worth the doing but????? The idiots we need to get rid of did their protesting in the sixties and look what we inherited. Now we’re too old to participate but will the younger generations see the worthiness of such an endeavor? Sad to say they probably don’t even believe THE original Revolution was necessary. Prayers and power to Vallely and Riley and others!!!

“Will this be a cake-walk? No, it will be painful, and some people may die because the government will not be non-violent; some of us will end up in a cell, and some may be injured. If that’s what it will take to save our nation, do we have any choice? Freedom loving Americans will say there is no choice, we must begin the second American Revolution. Not with guns, but with millions of Americans demanding a return to constitutional government and the resignation of Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Holder as a start…then the constitutional restoration process can begin.”

He urged “all organizations, groups, particularly veterans and military retirees, [to] begin planning to visit Washington, D.C., beginning May 16, 2014.”

His plans seem to align mostly with what another retired military leader, Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, has advocated.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/2nd-top-military-man-calls-for-millions-to-march-on-d-c/#gh1b7cOrcGxcOWDB.99


22 posted on 01/04/2014 4:08:44 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“A determination of incompetency...

FUBO! 'WE THE PEOPLE' DETERMINE IT IS YOU THAT IS INCOMPETENT!

23 posted on 01/04/2014 4:08:57 PM PST by Balata (Obama is a Lying Fraud, and so are his followers!)
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To: Graybeard58

Ex-wife or estranged wife claims you hit her or puts restraining order on you? No gun for you! Does she have to prove it? Not at all. It goes on and on.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 4:09:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s well past time for the American people to wake up and smell the coffee. This lyin’ king commie is making good on his promise to ‘fundamentally transform’ this grand experiment, into a socialist, third-world has-been nation comprised of only two classes of people: The ‘gimme’ class and the criminals (the rest of us).
Despite all the lessons of history, the sheeple still wander along behind him, heading straight for the cliff that bottoms out in Totalitarianism.

Veterans are among the very first group of people this libtard would want to disarm. And, he’s doing it; bit by bit. All in the guise of helping them out.

Sickening. Disgusting. Time for a change...a major change.


25 posted on 01/04/2014 4:10:31 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of you here know how I feel about a second Civil War. I absolutely do not want one to occur. But being a realist I can watch with eyes wide open and see step after step being made in a coordinated and well thought out plan being revealed with these executive orders, the implementation of Obamacare, the VA and it’s treatment of those under it’s ‘supposed’ care. The systematic destruction of the economy via un-legislated regulations from various Federal agencies.

Therefore one such as I can only deduce that the ‘elites’ and our government at the highest levels are not only preparing for such an event they appear to be actively planning on it occuring.


26 posted on 01/04/2014 4:10:43 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: AlexW

That was the second half of my post: “Obama also wants to disarm those who took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, at least those who meant that oath.”


27 posted on 01/04/2014 4:10:56 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Buy it on the street. Screw the illegal law.


28 posted on 01/04/2014 4:11:09 PM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: defconw
Question: Have any of the recent mass shooters been a Veteran?

Col Hassan comes to mind. Oh, wait, he was active duty! And a psychiatrist, to boot. /sarc

29 posted on 01/04/2014 4:11:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The White House inched forward Friday with two new executive actions aimed at boosting the federal background-check system. The new laws”

The writer is incompetent - an Executive Order is not a “law”.

Again, Obama is defying the law, deeming the law inadequate to HIS purposes and telling his minions to write a “clarification” to the law to match what he wants.

Like many other actions he has taken, he is stepping beyond the authority given him in the law he is instructing DOJ to reinterpret differently than the langauge of the law reads.


30 posted on 01/04/2014 4:12:31 PM PST by Wuli
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To: 43north
"Watch to see if they change this to any veteran who is receiving disability benefits for PTSD, depression, or some other behavioral health condition."...Thanks 43N, for pointing this out.

But what should I watch out for? Do certain words or meds trigger investigation ?????

31 posted on 01/04/2014 4:13:12 PM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Executive orders are supposed to be used to organize the executive branch of government, they are not laws.


32 posted on 01/04/2014 4:13:52 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: jocon307

It would take more than a generation for the Republicans to undo all the damage this man has done


33 posted on 01/04/2014 4:14:39 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: defconw

The Navy Yard shooter had been in the Navy Reserves, but no active duty other than boot camp. He was admin discharged from the Reserves which could be for a number of reasons. Not exposed to any PTSD type experiences.


34 posted on 01/04/2014 4:20:15 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Stormdog

“a danger to themselves or others”

OK, ... We don’t have to worry about a danger to themselves from guns. They shoot themselves and problem is over.

Danger to others -— replace ‘others’ with ‘bo’.


35 posted on 01/04/2014 4:20:38 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: 43north

EVERY time I go to the VA clinic they ask me if I am experiencing emotional problems or thoughts of suicide. I told my wife last year,” I think that they are trying to label us all as “Mentally disturbed and too unstable to own firearms”

Well, here we are!

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they are NOT out to get you.”


36 posted on 01/04/2014 4:22:46 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Since the birth of our Republic, there have been a number of significant events that have drastically affected our country’s future development and wellbeing. Some of these events were immediately recognized as significant, but others have taken longer to be recognized, and one of these is the 1968 Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War.

The damage caused to our country by the “Butterfly Effect” spawned by the 1968 Tet Offensive is just now beginning to be realized by a few of us who were there. Those who were there know all too well the meaning of Tet and what occurred during Tet 1968 and its aftermath, but for those who weren’t there, let me explain.

During the Vietnam War, the Chinese New Year celebration was called Tet and it was the only holiday the Vietnamese celebrated during the year. The Tet celebration lasted for two weeks, and it wasn’t just a time for drinking, feasting, and partying, it was a time for family reunions where Vietnamese traveled great distances to be with their families during these two weeks.

Prior to Tet 1967, a truce had been negotiated with the Communists, and both sides had agreed to a cease-fire during the two weeks of Tet in 1967. The Communists had honored this mutually agreed upon truce and had maintained a cease-fire throughout the 1967 two week Tet celebration, but we had observed them blatantly moving troops and equipment in the open without fear of attack from us.

In 1968, the South Vietnamese Government negotiated another truce with the Communists and both sides agreed to another cease-fire again for Tet 1968. The Communists had profited greatly from the previous Tet 1967 cease-fire when they had used the cease-fire to resupply and refit their units in the field without interference from U.S. air and artillery strikes, so we fully expected them to honor their agreed upon Tet 1968 cease-fire, as it was fully to their advantage to do so, or so we thought at the time.

However, the Communists used this 1968 mutually agreed upon cease-fire to infiltrate its Viet Cong combat units into all major cities in South Vietnam under the cover of the extensive pre-holiday travel that preceded Tet, when many Vietnamese returned home to be with their families during the Tet holidays. This infiltration was in preparation for simultaneous attacks throughout South Vietnam at midnight on January 29, 1968. An estimated fifteen Viet Cong battalions, to include the entire Viet Cong 9th Division with its 271st, 272nd, and 273rd Regiments, were infiltrated to positions in and around Saigon with the intent of capturing South Vietnam’s Capitol. For some reason, we had all forgotten that all Communists are “Ends Justify the Means” liars, and in the end, it cost us the war.

The 1968 Tet Offensive was a coordinated “Do or Die” attack by every Viet Cong unit in Vietnam on the night of January 29 and the morning of January 30, 1968 that simultaneously struck every South Vietnamese City, village, and military installation in an attempt to win the war in one country wide surprise attack; they failed and they paid the price for their failure; they died. The annihilation of Viet Cong units was carried out by American and South Vietnamese combat units throughout South Vietnam and was a disaster for the Communist insurgency, as it never recovered from its loses. The war was carried on after Tet 1968 by invading North Vietnamese, and North Vietnam could never move sufficient troops down the Ho Chi Minh Trail to ever hope to defeat the United States effort in South Vietnam, so they resorted to their favorite Communist tactic; they lied.

1968 was a Presidential Election year in the United States, and the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) attempted to use the Tet Offensive to influence the election by claiming it was a Communist victory and the war was lost. The CPUSA organized an anti-war movement and assembled enough strength through this movement to seize control of the Democrat Party that summer during the 1968 Democrat Convention in Chicago. These Communists attempted to nominate a Presidential candidate who would end the war and they failed, but the CPUSA still retained control of the Democrat Party, and this Party managed to elect enough Leftist Democrats to Congress to cut funding for the Vietnam War, American troops were withdrawn, logistic support for South Vietnam was terminated, and the war was then lost, so in this way the 1968 Tet Offensive was indeed a Communist victory.

After using the Tet Offensive to gain control of the Democrat Party, the Communist Party USA never lost control, and when a few decades later they managed to elect an avowed Marxist Communist to the Presidency of the United States, it made the 1968 Tet Offensive the greatest Communist victory of all time.

Obama and his Marxist-Communist Administration didn’t just suddenly appear in November of 2008; they made their first appearance on the streets of Saigon in the early morning hours of January 30, 1968. For the next forty years, while we were focused on Communist insurgencies around the world, here at home Communists quietly invaded all levels of our education system and contaminated two generations of our children’s minds with Marxist-Communist thought, as our Communist dominated News Media cheered them on.

Is there even one American who still believes the United States won the Cold War? Or, does anyone even care anymore?


37 posted on 01/04/2014 4:25:54 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OK, but he’s a terrorist. He was menatally competent, unless many docotrs in the US military are terrorists and cleared him as such.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 4:27:13 PM PST by defconw (Cibco's my spouse)
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To: USNBandit
OK, OK, I guess everyone missed my point. Never mind.

I was not in the military, but my husband was. So when they deem anyone having been in the military as incompetent and take the guns away, then will the Republicans get serious? I am so fed up. I just wish I knew how to proceed.

39 posted on 01/04/2014 4:32:26 PM PST by defconw (Cibco's my spouse)
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To: Scrambler Bob

“Danger to others -— replace ‘others’ with ‘bo’.”

I often wonder if the son of a whore is getting worried.

But then I think his ego is just so big, that he does this crap just because he can. Narcissistic little boys think like that.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 4:34:52 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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