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To: exDemMom

“I know this is morbid, but does anyone know how long a dead body can be maintained in such a manner?”

Have you never heard of Karen Ann Quinlan?

She was brain dead and kept alive on a ventilator.

Back then in the 70’s it was the family trying to let her die by removing the ventilator and the hospital that refused.

She lived for months until the family won the right to have the ventilator removed.

She did not die as expected and live almost a decade more.


26 posted on 01/03/2014 4:51:11 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
Have you never heard of Karen Ann Quinlan?

She was brain dead and kept alive on a ventilator.

Karen was not brain dead. Her EEG showed slow-wave activity. That's not brain dead. That's brain injured. Jahi shows no cerebral activity whatsoever. None. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

30 posted on 01/03/2014 4:59:08 PM PST by Drew68
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To: ifinnegan
Karen Ann Quinlan...She was brain dead

Nonsense. By all accounts she was in a persistent vegetative state. It would help this discussion if you wouldn't conflate the two.

32 posted on 01/03/2014 5:04:45 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ifinnegan

Karen Ann Quinlan was not dead. She was severely brain damaged, much like Terry Schindler. Her brain was fully alive.

A brain dead person has *no* functional brain because the brain is actually dead—no oxygenation, no blood, no energy use, no metabolism of any kind. When removed from a respirator, a brain dead person does not breathe and the heart ceases to beat shortly thereafter.

This little girl, Jahi, has been examined and determined to be brain dead. Although some of the physiological functions of life have been artificially prolonged using the ventilator and many of the tissues remain alive, she is dead. Her soul is in Heaven.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 5:37:46 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ifinnegan
The difference in Quinlan's case was that she wasn't actually "dead" by any medical definition. Her case demonstrates a clear difference between "death" and a "coma." The fact that she survived after the respirator was removed was compelling evidence that she was still "alive" by any objective measure.
62 posted on 01/03/2014 6:37:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: ifinnegan

Interesting, don’t you think, since her body didn’t turn to mush or anything like it. This young girl is not dead, she is on a ventilator as was Christopher Reeve until he died and Karen Quinlan for 10 years after the ventilator was removed. The hospital is looking out for their financial interest, period, IMHO.

Young children who are gravely injured - for that matter, adults who are gravely injured - sometimes recover. My Mom, for example, was put on a respirator because she was dying of a massive cerebral hemmorhage (sp). 3 hours later she woke up, noticed my brother had changed his shirt, and was sent home 3 days later alert and oriented. She ended up with no physical and minimal mental affects. Both physicians and nurses said it was a miracle.

This girl may recover some or not at all, but the hospital and freepers aren’t helping the discussion by saying she is dead.


64 posted on 01/03/2014 6:40:29 PM PST by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: ifinnegan

She wasn’t brain dead. She was alive, but in a persistent vegetative state. That is why she was able to live for years after the respirator was removed.


122 posted on 01/06/2014 7:13:16 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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