Posted on 01/03/2014 11:15:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Staffers with at least one hospital in Northern Virginia turned away several patients this week due to confusion about Obamacare: Were the patients covered by insurance or not?
Some patients walked away when they learned that the hospital would be charging them hundreds of dollars for treatment because they couldn’t prove their enrollment in the federal health care system.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
ha ha
even when they prove they are enrolled, there are those “deductibles” of thousands of dollars for the lowest tier plans
for the formerly comfortably insured middle class, welcome to cash-for-service, a new watershed in American healthcare
Aah, the benefits of Socialism.
This needs to be a headline on the front of major magazines.
Around here we have a whole bunch of Doc-inna-box stores. They’re free standing doctor’s offices. They cost a fraction of what a hospital costs and they can do a large percentage of what a hospital can do. They probably don’t do surgery, but I suspect most people go to the emergency room for standard stuff any doctor could do. I think they only operate from 9-5 but I’d go there first. It’s $240 for the first visit. They’ll tell you up front how much it costs. My experience with hospitals is they can’t get an estimate to within the right decimal point.
Run away! Run away!
The Obamacare website with all its big-ass buttons and smiley, happy pictures prolly obscured the details.
And so it begins. At least one of these sounds like one of obama’s people.
The deductibles... the deductibles will get them or they will have to be “forgiven”. This is not to mention the insured’s share of the bill after the deductible.
Wonder what the reaction is going to be?
Some patients walked away when they learned that the hospital would be charging them hundreds of dollars for treatment because they couldn’t prove their enrollment in the federal health care system.
My daughter happens to work at one of the hospitals in this article. These patients were NOT turned away. The patients WALKED OUT when they learned that their ER visit would not be "free".
They can go see Obama for some pity. There ain’t none here with me.
Definition of "Gibsmedat." The annuities reference therein are running thereout.
Aren’t most of Holder’s Peeps on Medicaid?
Once Obamacare takes hold, a new crisis will occur. People will pay the lowest premium they can to simply get in the door. They will then simply not pay the deductibles and other out of pocket bills that come afterwards. Credit will be ruined for many and bad debts will rack up for the medical facilities...increasing cost and premiums for all who attempt to legitimately pay what they owe.
Most of these people never read the fine-print of the bronze plans...which dictate a four to six thousand dollar deductible. Most of these people...don’t have more than a thousand a year they can throw at stuff like this.
So what happens in twelve months....is that a quarter of the new signees will drop the policy because it’s useless for them (they don’t have the four to six thousand dollars for the deductible).
The quitters of 2015 will be an interesting crowd that the media won’t be able to explain on the air or in front of their audience.
Where is “here”?
I believe that such small islands of healthcare could be effective means of genuinely lowering costs. Staffed with maybe a couple of RNs and 4-5 PA’s, they might seem to be sort of a Mexican model, but I don’t see anthing wrong with that model. I happen to think that 5-year RN’s can do about 2/3rds of what docs can do. Such a schema would keep plenty of low-emergency patients out of E-rooms.
Of course, 0care is not really interested in lowering costs. It’s interested in controlling an ever-larger flow of funds and achieving whatever rake it can from that flow.
“Most of these people never read the fine-print of the bronze plans...which dictate a four to six thousand dollar deductible.”
Most of these people do not have the slightest understanding of the meaning of the word “deductible”.
“Where is “here”?”
Tallahassee, Fl.
In deciding where to do an operation the doctor said, “with your insurance you can do it at the hospital or my office.” I can’t do total anesthesia here (bone resection) but a local will do.” I asked what the cost difference was and he said, “Oh, probably $10-15 thousand. But your insurance will cover all of it.”
Scared as I was, I did it in his office. I will admit the “local” knocked me the heck out, for which I was very grateful.
unless the hospitals/doctors require the deductible to be paid first. if it isn’t, no treatment.
I actually was laughing about this with a friend at work. We could see it coming. People can’t afford the monthly premium without the subsidy, how in the heck are they going to afford the deductible?
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