Isn't that classic, you wouldn't know what they were putting on that aircraft.
Posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:25 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
The National Transportation Safety Board says in a preliminary accident report that a small commercial plane that crash-landed in Hawaii waters floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.
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A little trivia: Loretta Fuddy and Cynthia Bunch are officially related to Mr Obama through marriage, if you believe his mother was a Dunham.
I had no idea their mother was Australian...
well well well...
I need a coffee.
Refresh my memory, please. When did BO's mother die?
Stanley Ann Dunham (November 29, 1942 – November 7, 1995)
wiki.
who knows?
(Can’t really tell you when his mother died, we don’t know who she was.)
That’s a possibility. With all the discrepancies we’d have to have some hard data to know for sure what happened. The witnesses don’t seem to agree on their accounts.
Interesting article at http://themolokaidispatch.com/airport-construction-on-hold-in-kalaupapa/ They’re supposed to be getting a garage for their fire truck at the Kalapaupa Airport but they can’t agree on where to put it, because they don’t want it to keep people from being able to be close to the runway to watch flights come in and take off, which is the custom there. The priest and DOH administrator Mark Miller picked Fuddy up at the airport in the morning and were around when the rescue crews brought people to the airport, which seems to be a couple miles north of the town itself.
Kawasaki said the engine went out less than a minute after take-off. It just seems weird that nobody would have seen the plane go down.
I love you, Fred. You make me laugh.
I don’t drink coffee but I could use a coffee. lol
Couldn't have been any longer, he reached altitude and was making a turn when it happened. Judging by the images of where he landed, it wasn't far from shore. I was relieved to read that the helicopter pilot noted the number on the tail of the aircraft. I wouldn't even trust them to salvage the right 'plane otherwise. Taking the engine out and lifting the aircraft a week later, and showing an aircraft that went down near the shore whole and quite undamaged in bits and pieces all mangled, doesn't suggest all is above board.
...giggles, maybe all those women we thought were dead are being kept somewhere in a harem eating grapes and drinking sherry? So who's going to be next?
Could be you or me...better hush our/my mouth.
Just found this:
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Molokai emergency response personnel gave Fuddy a final salute at the Ho`olehua airport Monday morning before her body was transported to Honolulu.
“We saved eight because of what you did,” paramedic Scotty Schaefer, also Fuddy’s brother-in-law, solemnly reminded fellow emergency responders. “Loretta was family to us.””
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That was at http://themolokaidispatch.com/kalaupapa-aircraft-wreckage-to-be-recovered-under-investigation/
So not only did Fuddy’s sister work directly with the acting coroner whose spokesman publicly stated (the day after the crash) that Fuddy’s body had been pulled from the wreckage.... but her brother-in-law is a paramedic with the Molokai fire and rescue crew who did the rescue.
The Facebook page for Deliana Fuddy (has all her family stuff on it) says she was born on Molokai. Makes sense if her mom and sister lived there. This whole family is entrenched within the government of that island. Having 2 immediate family members be part of the crew that handles rescue and death counseling type stuff at the very place where her death occurred... is quite a coincidence.
Another interesting note, although I don’t have the link for it right now. At the public memorial for Fuddy the most emotional speaker there was Richard Schuman, who was comforted by Fuddy’s family members.
All the relatives lined up like little jack-in-the-boxes, ready to go...Hawaii sure is a funny place.
Isn't that classic, you wouldn't know what they were putting on that aircraft.
• Our history: Subud began in 1925 when an Indonesian named Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo received what he reported as being a sudden and unexpected contact with God.
The founder of Subud, whom members refer to as “Bapak” (the Indonesian form of address for a respected elder), continued to experience this contact personally for several years before being told, through prayer, that other people could also have this connection with God. Bapak was not a teacher or a leader, but more of a spiritual guide, Subud members say.
The name Subud was first used in 1947. It wasn’t until 1956 that Subud reached the West. Subud was introduced to Hawai’i in the 1960s.
• What’s special about us: Sears, who has had formal training in philosophy and theology, said that Subud is “really the only thing that I’ve come across that is ecumenical in the sense that anybody can do this,” he said. “Anybody can participate and worship in this way no matter what religion you are or if you don’t have a religion.”
Members of Subud come from various spiritual, cultural, social and religious backgrounds. “That’s the beauty of if it,” said member Deliana Fuddy. “We are all very diverse . . . and yet we can come together to improve our connection, to improve ourselves and in some ways, to improve our community around us.”
http://www.gocnhosb.com/gocTinTuc/SBVoice11/SVOL11-08.pdf
Obama’s mother and Subud
By Staff Reporter...
A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother, a biography of the mother of US President Obama, Ann Dunham Sutoro, contains several references to Subud. As is generally known Obama lived with his mother in Jakarta for some years...
Arianne (no second name) wrote to me to say, “Talked to Irin Poellot who is reading the book about Obama’s mother and has already run into several literal mentions of Subud!!! I remember the late Mansur Madeiros mentioning he knew her in Indonesia and he is mentioned in the book! I can’t help wondering if we will get inquiries about Subud since it is mentioned often in a book which probably will be widely read. It also is a delicious fact that our Subud sister, Ms Fuddy, just was appointed to her post in the Health Dept in Hawaii in time to be involved in the documentation of fact that Obama was born there.”
I wrote back asking for more specific information and Arianne replied, “Irin kindly supplied some quotes:
In chapter 4 “Initiation in Java” the Subud members are quoted. And then (on page 116): “...she (Ann) was hired to start an English- language, business-communications department in one of the few pri- vate non profit management-training schools in the country.
Ann “found a group of young Americans and Britons enrolled in an intensive course in Bahasa Indonesia, the national lan- guage, at the University of Indonesia recalled Irwan Holmes, (a member of the original group). She was looking for teachers. A half dozen of them accepted her invitation, many of them members of an international spiritual organization, Subud, with a resi- dential compound in a suburb of Jakarta..”
And ......Mohammad Mansur Madeiros, a reclusive and scholarly Subud member from Fall River, Massachusetts, and Harvard, whom Ann hired as a teacher, had immersed himself so deeply in Javanese culture, language and religion that friends nicknamed him Mansur Java. When he died in 2007, friends recalled his preference for the company of ordinary Indonesians — street vendors and becak drivers — over that of other Subud members and expatriates.”
And...there you have it (says Arianne)!.
Obama’s mother certainly sounds like a most interesting woman. From Time magazine online...
“Each of us lives a life of contradictory truths. We are not one thing or another. Barack Obama’s mother was at least a dozen things. S. Ann Soetoro was a teen mother who later got a Ph.D. in anthropology; a white woman from the Midwest who was more comfortable in Indonesia; a natural-born mother obsessed with her work; a romantic pragmatist, if such a thing is possible.”
For more go to...http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524,00.html
Does that plane seem big enough to hold a casket?
Maybe they sat her up in one of the seats.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=90#90
and #91
SUBUD. ALICE DEWEY. KING AND QUEEN OF JAKARTA.
“Just in time to be involved in documentation of the fact of his birth there...”
She was put there specifically to create a BC that claimed Obama was born there, because they didn’t have anything legally valid that would do the job, and Neal Palafox wouldn’t agree to create a fake.
And this gal more than likely knows that, because there is no way a person in 2011 can take part in documenting a birth that happened in 1961, unless she claims to be a witness to the 1961 event. Fuddy’s job was supposed to be to keep track of documentation that already existed.
Reportedly Stanley Ann Dunham died November of 1995.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
Internet searches by freepers in 2008 showed Stanley Ann Dunham's social security number was still being used.
Also, one freeper discovered a NY condo registered in her name during the same time period.
This information is posted in one of the many 2008 FR threads.
Meant to add, Check out # 215 by Maggief.
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