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1 posted on 12/30/2013 5:31:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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This was done by the BRILLIANT, EXEMPT, WHORING,
TREASONOUS, antiCONSTITUTIONAL US Congress
because they are soooo smart and better than all the rest.


2 posted on 12/30/2013 5:33:18 AM PST by Diogenesis
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I wonder if the gestapo police in Connecticut will confiscate incandescent light bulbs when they raid houses to seize non-registered guns.


6 posted on 12/30/2013 5:43:43 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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Thank you George W. Bush…. you creepy little ( fill in the blank)


7 posted on 12/30/2013 5:44:23 AM PST by Nifster
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This predilection, on the part of government “experts”, to decide they know best for everyone and to force everyone to go along, has had far more significant consequences than lighting.

Are you overweight? Have high blood pressure? Diabetes? Atherosclerosis?

Have you tried to bring your weight under control by eating the recommended low-fat, low-calorie, high-carb diet, combined with endless hours of moderate intensity cardio exercise? And had it not work?

Did you ever wonder why it was that the obesity epidemic started immediately after the government first published its nutritional guidelines recommending low-fat diets?

Did you know that there was zero actual evidence that low-fat diets would reduce the risk of heart disease - and that there still isn’t?

Those who have died, because they followed the governments misguided nutritional advice number in the tens of millions. The number who are sick, because they are currently following that advice? Estimates are 30-40% of the adult population.

We don’t need to get our lightbulbs back - we need to get the government out of the business of telling people how to live their lives. And to accomplish that, we need to cure a large part of the population of their perverse need to have someone else tell them how their lives should be run.

As to how to do that, I’m open to suggestions...


8 posted on 12/30/2013 5:45:41 AM PST by jdege
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Who’s gonna need light bulbs anymore anyway, with this admin’s new EPA regs are coming online after the new year that will shut down all the power plants anyway? /sarc


10 posted on 12/30/2013 5:48:03 AM PST by mikefive (RLTW)
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http://www.newcandescent.com/

(Haven’t bought anything from above link - but there are still options, more expensive... but options.)

Can still by the Halogen Incandescent bulbs - well, until 2020 when the ‘new & improved’ decreased energy usage kicks in.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 5:49:12 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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Get rough service bulbs. Same damn thing, legal and available.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 5:55:39 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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This will surely solve Global Warming.

Pray America is Waking


14 posted on 12/30/2013 5:56:52 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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I may be wrong, but I think the bulb were out lawed and the curly ques were mandated as a pay off to G.E. G.E. helped get zero elected and then we have to buy the light bulbs they have a patent on. So zero is using our money to pay off his friends.
15 posted on 12/30/2013 5:57:02 AM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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The ‘rough service bulbs’ aren’t being phased out at least
at this time. So they
will be available if you choose to pay the price.

http://www.1000bulbs.com/category/rough-service-light-bulbs/


18 posted on 12/30/2013 5:59:28 AM PST by deport
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At 10 cents a k-hr the payback on a 30 bulb operating at 18Watts is how long? Assuming the light is used 8 hours per day? Somebody do the math.


20 posted on 12/30/2013 6:02:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Wondering what will be happening to all the locations, both residential and commercial, that use dimmers and filament bulbs........

I’ve got a house full of them......in almost every room.......most rooms have several.....


21 posted on 12/30/2013 6:02:30 AM PST by Arlis
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We hear so much about 3D “printing” but I’ll bet it’s still not possible to use that process for producing incandescent light bulbs of any size.


38 posted on 12/30/2013 6:37:09 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Another colossal FUBAR by the fake conservative Bush


45 posted on 12/30/2013 6:57:50 AM PST by turducken
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Thank You, REPUBLICAN POTUS George W. Bush and Michigan REPUBLICAN Fred Upton.


47 posted on 12/30/2013 7:01:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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SeekAndFind re your comment GE (Bush/Obama chief policy advisers GE Welch/Immelt) also Philips (Moorehead) a freely admitted involvement

Strange to ban a popular safe product and push arguably unsafe ones - the opposite to usual practice.

New bulbs are good = no point banning old ones
New bulbs are not good = no point banning old ones.

Also, it is simply a ban to reduce electricity consumption.
But light bulbs don’t burn coal or release CO2 gas.
Power plants might, and might not.
If there’s a problem, deal with the problem.

Dept Energy grid data, mainly small off-peak evening surplus electricity use, and base loading coal plants on minimum night cycle basically burn the same coal anyway regardless of bulb used.

The light bulb ban makes no sense (except for major manufacturers who together as NEMA lobbied for and got ban on cheap patent expired generic lighting, relatively unprofitable compared to complex patented expensive alternatives)

14 points why the light bulb ban arguments don’t hold up:
http://freedomlightbulb.org/p/how-bans-are-wrongly-justified.html#ban
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53 posted on 12/30/2013 7:45:35 AM PST by lighthouse10
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SeekAndFind is also right on halogen replacements being banned

USA EISA 2007 law tier 2 2014-2017 regulation on light bulbs will ban all incandescents for general service, including halogens, based on the 45 lumen per Watt backstop final rule that equates to fluorescent bulbs and that locks down the 2014 review looking at implementation timing.
The aim is 2017, but the backstop extends it to 2020 at the latest

Also, while there are exemptions, their sales are monitored:

” Exemption reversal condition:
The Act includes a provision whereby, in cooperation with NEMA, sales of certain exempted lamps will be monitored, specifically:
• rough service
• vibration service
• 2601-3300 lumen general service (150-200W)
• 3-way
• shatter-resistant (”rough service”) lamps

For each of these lamp types, if sales double above the increase modeled for a given year — signaling that consumers are shifting from standard incandescents to these incandescents and thereby supposedly not saving energy — the lamp type will lose the exemption. “

Consequence: A requirement that any such popular lamp type can then only be sold “in a package containing 1 lamp”, and with a maximum 40 watt rating in most cases (95-watt for 2601-3300 lumen lamps, variably reduced for 3-way lamps).

If Newcandescent, Aero-Tech etc bulb sales reach a certain point such measures may kick in.
Still, the rough service types are needed in mines etc so
the plan is then to change the fitting types, although won’t stop determined users.

In EU this is already a problem. German Energy Commissioner Oettinger has ordered and apparently now got 50 inspectors
checking stores in German states. In Nov 25 EU stakeholder meeting dealing with the issue, it may now extend to all of the EU.

The US federal Gov has ban oversight funding which was blocked temporarily by Texan Rep Michael Burgess (amendment to Congress yearly Energy/Water Act) via the House Energy Committee, but will presumably be released sooner or later.

(The Texan Congress oversight blocking efforts also with Joe Barton and other reps is also said to be due to Gov Rick Perry having legalised incandescents in Texas June 2011 in a federal repeal move)
.

Big Brother is watching you.. one way or another ;-)


56 posted on 12/30/2013 8:08:35 AM PST by lighthouse10
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More mercury in our streams by order of the SS!

..erm...that is to say the EPA

58 posted on 12/30/2013 8:16:44 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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Every Congressional office as well as the White House better be equipped with these these curly monstrosities by Wednesday...ditto for low flow toilets. My bet is that organized crime will see a new opportunity just like they did with Prohibition. I could see Tony Soprano selling light bulbs and toilets out of an unmarked truck in some back alley.
59 posted on 12/30/2013 8:33:18 AM PST by The Great RJ
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There are thousands of rural well houses in the USA which use a 100 Watt bulb in the winter to keep the hydrant from freezing. What about brooder lamps for chicks or piglets??

I don’t want a bulb with Mercury anywhere near my stove or my kitchen counters. I also don’t want one inside my refrigerator.

The motion sensative security lights I have also are in the cold—and the Mercury bulbs don’t like such & don’t last very long in those conditions.

This will backfire in alot of ways before someone in Congress lets the incadescent bulb come back.


62 posted on 12/30/2013 9:24:30 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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