Posted on 12/29/2013 3:35:06 PM PST by marktwain
SACRAMENTO Gun registration had always seemed like the line in the sand a proposal that would so offend the nations gun-rights advocates that they would bring out their full political muscle to stop it. Yet a California law mandating government record-keeping for all new long-gun purchases goes into effect on Jan. 1 and few people even seem to know about it.
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The new law will bolster a program that has generated much controversy. Earlier this month, legislators held hearings on the effectiveness of the Armed Prohibited Persons System, used to confiscate the firearms of California residents who are no longer eligible to own them. The California Department of Justice relies on the current ownership lists to identify gun owners and cross check those with lists of people who have been convicted of crimes or have been involuntarily committed for mental issues.
The state auditor found, in a report released in October, that the department has not sufficiently notified courts and mental-health officials of their reporting requirements. Despite a new $24-million state appropriation, the auditor found that the program has failed to take guns from nearly 21,000 Californians who have forfeited their gun rights.
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Gun Owners of California reported recently that the system is anywhere from 40 percent to 60 percent incorrect. Others put the percentage lower, but its still high. In many cases, the department doesnt reinstate the gun rights of people who are allowed to once again own them, said the groups executive director, Sam Paredes. A vastly expanded ownership list will lead to more mistakes.
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Your right...on the money.
I am a resident of Idaho. Left CA in 2000. I have to work in San Diego due to security requirements. The new law expands the old "handgun importer" to "personal firearms importer" and covers any firearms "imported" to CA for a period exceeding 60 days. My work periods often exceed 60 days before I make the 900+ mile drive home. My security clearance is critical to my employment, so I'm not going to toy with technicalities to keep a firearm with me.
I have been expecting this since the 70s. I can't go on, and say what I really think, because this is a family forum, but I am thinking it.
“Bad news for criminal street gangs and other thugs. They’ll now have to register their AK-47s.”
Hey, if they have to turn their AK’s in, can I have one? I live in Ohio and they are legal here. :)
“God help this country when the powder keg explodes. It will be very ugly, very much along the lines of the first civil war.”
I do not wish to call the next war a civil war. It should be referred to as Revolutionary War II. It is not about ‘Civil’, it is about ‘Revolution’.
They're already being sued for it. We'll see.
Hmmm. IANAL, but I have had the 'opportunity' to work with several individuals in the legal and law-enforcement fields.
Just as a few thoughts: transport does not equal carry, import, export, or transfer. I am certain more experienced legal minds than I can take it from there.
Just as a permit for concealed carry does not automatically make it a legal offense and distinction between it and "concealed transport", "concealed export", "concealed conveyal", or "concealed threat", the one aspect you are concerned about is really one that any halfway-decent lawyer could argue if any difficulties should arise.
Just as a first thought: concealed carry from your place of residence to your place of employment and then back again does not mean "concealed transport". You are carrying the weapon from your place of residence as you are travelling and need it for protection, and then right back to your residence once again. Not "transporting" it across state lines.
NOT the same as transporting from one side of the state where the state line begins to the other side where another state line defines the limits of that state.
IF you were the sort of individual that believed strongly in your Second Amendment rights I would begin with that.
However, I also know that some will always be the type that Ben Franklin mentioned in one of his famous sayings...
Something about persons valuing security (in some cases it seems "job" security) over freedom(s) (even those enumerated in our Constitution) should rightly enjoy the benefits of neither.
But you have I think, pointed out that you are worried about your continued employment, so again; I offer sympathies.imported
Sorry. Should read: "...offence and there is a distinction between it and ..."
I have lost property, monies, and sometimes personal freedom due to what I believe, but they are not going to force Me to willingly abide by their diktats while I still breathe. I fought for this country's freedom for many years. Be damned if I am going to be made a willing slave despite that.
Puzzles me though in regards to states like Texas. We are supposed to be the conservative stronghold in the nation...but our state gubbamint is sucking up H-security grants like there going out of style.
NSA,ATF,EPA,DHS,TSA,IRS,DEA,FBI,CIA and the rest of the alphabet agencies are aligning themselves against the average citizen. More and more military style weapons, vehicles, surveillance being deployed throughout the states via DHS grants....gotta ask why?
Heck, we have the Social Security Admin, EPA and such stockpiling hoards of ammo. Spying w/o warrants against citizens, Surveillance drones throughout America... why all of this?
So far, here in Texas it's been reported on the local news at various times that sheriffs departments receiving DHS grants for our new drones, Houston police installing hundreds of cameras throughout the city thanx to DHS grants.
Keeps ringing back to me what Obozo said, “we need a civilian force just as well equipped...”
Feel like I'm in the novel 1984. Used to think all this was tinfoil hat nonsense....???
Now..pffffft...ten commandments? Pfffft! Whatever.
God created this nation and HE can choose to take it apart just as HE did ancient Israel. Question is...if there are a few righteous people, will he allow them to battle for the heart of this nation.
Once a man's tasted freedom, you'll never remove freedom from his heart. The evil oligarchs running things will attempt to crush the spirit of the believer and cause them to bow down in servitude to the state.
Got news for’em. Folks will not walk away from freedom easily.
Because they see the law not as something that applies to everyone everywhere, but as a tool by which to justify themselves in their lust for power, wealth, adrenaline, whatever they wish.
Pulling select quotes from this article:
To the legal positivist [laws] are more a matter of convenience or expedience or personal preference than attempts to codify permanent standards of right and wrong.It is your enslavement that they seek, at best; your utter annihilation, at worst.
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Tyranny is rank egotism, the haughty belief that the world will be a better place when everyone else does what I think they should do.
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When there are no fixed principles, then law becomes a cruel and unjust weapon. Equal treatment before the law is supplanted by cronyism and special interest deals. The governors and governed no longer share equal standing before the law, but the former exalt themselves above the law, and use the law as a tool to oppress and control the latter.
Amen, my fellow servantboy.
Honored you’re on my team.
God’s richeset blessings be with you in 2014.
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