Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Welcome to Obamacare - punish those who work and are successful. As many of you here already know, this has nothing to do with health insurance, it's an income redistribution scheme, i.e. a major step towards socialism.
1 posted on 12/26/2013 6:38:57 PM PST by Innovative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Innovative

2 posted on 12/26/2013 6:39:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

3 posted on 12/26/2013 6:40:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

This is going to cause complete and total economic collapse. People will simply stop working. Between this and an effective tax rate of over 50% will remove all incentive to work.

Some people are going to crack up and become very very violent.

Others are going to simply give up. Why work if you get to keep nothing?


6 posted on 12/26/2013 6:44:29 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

pure insanity


8 posted on 12/26/2013 6:44:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Yep this is what the people were clamoring for.

It’s the law of the land...

How is that hope and change workin out for ya now?


10 posted on 12/26/2013 6:49:00 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Bump


12 posted on 12/26/2013 6:51:06 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Affordable care act, affordable is in air quotes and smirks as the rest of the title is ransom note style clippings from magazines or crayon scrawls..
...by Obama.
We have an Andy Warhol “painting” as legislation and as a “president”.
(Hipsters just sprouted pants tents at the thought.)

/ end random boredom induced meanderings.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 6:52:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

In my case, bi-weekly premiums of $492...nominally $13k in premiums from before tax income. Must pay the sum of all deductibles for persons covered with after tax money...$7k of after tax before getting a penny of benefits from the premiums. That $7k after tax represents $12.5k gross (pre-tax). Roughly $25,000 a year if I need any medical services and $13k if I don’t use any. Such a deal!


17 posted on 12/26/2013 6:59:56 PM PST by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Obama’s Holocaust, ya think?


18 posted on 12/26/2013 7:00:01 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

all part of the redistribution plan


21 posted on 12/26/2013 7:03:11 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Yes, it is thievery and IRS thuggery. Just a start. Free food and free housing is here already, and will just get more elaborate, courtesy Democrat voters.


30 posted on 12/26/2013 7:42:48 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative
Its amazing to me that so many simply don't know how much health insurance costs.

I'm not a fan of Odamacare but at least it has made so many wake up to the reality...

In 2009 my premium for myself and 3 dependents was $628 a month with Blue Cross, in 2010 they increased it to $856/month.

I went back to the VA and they could get a $10,000/year policy for $339/month.

Qbamacare is an intrusion on our rights as Americans but these complaints of the cost ring hollow to me..as usual most Americans haven't been paying attention

31 posted on 12/26/2013 8:11:16 PM PST by montanajoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

All we can hope is that this thing is sh.. canned. Otherwise, we’re so screwed.


33 posted on 12/26/2013 8:31:47 PM PST by virgil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

Bookmark


36 posted on 12/26/2013 9:12:50 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

65K in Los Angeles is poor. I bet they receive huge subsidies for Obamacare. The story may have left that out.


41 posted on 12/27/2013 7:00:53 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Innovative

I received this from a friend

This is about the best explanation I have seen yet about what the democratic party is. Everybody wants “something for nothing” but people who are responsible know that somebody has to pay for those who don’t (whether they can’t or won’t – same difference, somebody has to pay for it).

I’m a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That’s right, $1 per month. I’m not making this up.

Don’t believe me? Just go to www.coveredca.gov, the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I’ve mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You’ll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners. But there’s a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I’d like you to think about something:

I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.

But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (see Google Earth View).

Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more.

If you have no insurance, if you’ve been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it’s essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836.

And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month. That’s right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it’s bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would *never* agree to subsidize premium policies. If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I’m subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.

Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work *as an engineer*. $48 is something I could pay for collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That’s just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab.

Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal?

ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left’s political power base, at taxpayer expense.

Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month?

For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage?

Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I’m saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they’ll multiply, and multiply, and multiply. And not one of them will vote other than Democrat.

ObamaCare: It’s all about political power.


45 posted on 12/27/2013 8:36:54 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson