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'Duck Dynasty' Debacle Has TV Industry Abuzz as A&E Charts New Territory [A&E made "rookie mistake"]
Deadline.com ^ | Tuesday, December 24, 2013 | Lisa de Moraes

Posted on 12/24/2013 7:31:10 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6

"Five Things A&E Did Wrong has become the hot parlor game among TV industry execs at holiday get-togethers."

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"“A rookie mistake.” That’s how one TV industry veteran who’s put in time dealing with rogue reality stars described A&E’s handling of its Duck Dynasty nightmare."

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"“Someone’s going to have to back down,” said one industry vet, predicting it’s not going to be the Robertsons. “Either [A+E Networks CEO] Nancy [Dubuc] says, ‘This is not the position of the network and we respect Phil’s religious beliefs,’ and we all move on from there, or I don’t think the show survives on A&E,” the source continued.

“They’re going to have to apologize,” agreed another. “If they want them back, they’re going to have to eat crow. They’ll probably do it right after Christmas. Look for a note sometime over the next week and a half.”"

(Excerpt) Read more at deadline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ae; duckdynasty; homosexualagenda; philrobertson; rookiemistake
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Both those organizations committed "knee-jerk" reactions. Are you sure you're not also making one?

No knee jerk whatsoever. I can hold a grudge with the best of them. Attack Christianity for any reason, and you've lost me forever. I don't care what Cracker Barrel said to apologize . . . obviously, if it weren't their purse that was struck, they'd have left their anti-Christianity stand intact.

I am so sick and tired of crosses coming down, kwanzaa being taught in grade schools, homosexual floats in the Rose Parade, homosexual marriages in Christian churches, nativity displays being ripped down, Christmas cards mentioning Jesus being kept from our veterans in VA hospitals, muslim creeps living in our White House not mentioning Christ even once in the Christmas card (that we pay for), and now this latest crap with the Duck Dynasty. Sorry, but God comes before this kind of trash.

My stand is firm. There are tons of stations to watch and many, many restaurants to go to. There's one less now.

41 posted on 12/24/2013 8:44:59 PM PST by laweeks
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To: MortMan

I guess they learned nothing from the Chick-Fil-A debacle. We’re mad and we arent’ taking it any more. We’ve been pushed around by the minority way too long. Enough is enough!


42 posted on 12/24/2013 8:47:10 PM PST by Catsrus (A)
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To: mrsmel
why did a&e allow Phil Robertson within a mile of a GQ interview?

According to one report I saw, A&E had a "handler" on-hand who, at one point, permitted ol' Phil and the interview to wander off by themselves, which is when Phil made the statements in question. I've seen someone speculate that Phil drove off in one of his two-seat swamp buggies with the feller, as he is so fond of doing.

Phil is absolutely irrepressible by nature, so this was bound to happen once he granted--and A&E permitted--the interview.

As for A&E "allowing" the interview: what I don't get is what gives A&E the contractual right to attempt to prevent or moderate Phil from speaking his mind in whatever forum he wishes. I've seen references to standard contract boilerplate, but I haven't actually seen the verbiage. Anyway, A&E's attempt to censor what he can say is purely subjective--they can say he's violative of his contract, but he can dispute it, and then where are they?

43 posted on 12/24/2013 8:50:37 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: laweeks
Attack Christianity for any reason, and you've lost me forever.

So then, do you reject the Pauline epistles? After all, before his conversion he was persecuting Christianity.
This sort of stance should be re-examined, for the simple reason that it does not reflect the saving power of Jesus.

44 posted on 12/24/2013 8:57:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: madison10

All too true


45 posted on 12/24/2013 9:00:57 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: laweeks
I can hold a grudge with the best of them.

You don't owe me any answer at all, but it appears you are a Christian yourself. Since you took the trouble of replying, I'm moved by the Spirit to make this single point for your consideration, in the spirit of one Christian reminding another.

We are not called to holding grudges, but to forgive. As Jesus taught, "Forgive us our debts as we also have forgiven our debtors...For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."

Again, I'm not trying to solicit your response to me.

46 posted on 12/24/2013 9:02:14 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

I can’t recall all the details now, but beat up a man and his wife after a business dispute. They dropped charges after he paid them a big settlement.

By Phil’s own account he was mean and violent in those days.


47 posted on 12/24/2013 9:06:51 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Hebrews 11:6
In addition to Know Your Star, execs we spoke with said the basic tenets of Surviving Reality TV Series Hits also include Know Your Show, Know Your Audience — and, last but not least, Get Out Of Your Own Way (aka, Hollywood and New York Are Not the Norm in the Country). Emphasis added.
48 posted on 12/24/2013 9:06:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MortMan

It “wasn’t a rookie mistake” is absolutely right. The A&E approach of intimidation and destruction of normal American values has been practiced by the media millions of times before with nary a peep of complaint by normal people. We’ve been bludgeoned so long to practice “tolerance.” But suddenly this time people have awoken somewhat to what’s going on. That’s what’s different this time.


49 posted on 12/24/2013 9:21:01 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Hebrews 11:6

I knew I remembered correctly. Here’s a reference to it elsewhere:

Q: How was the idea for $1,000,000aire Blueprints born?
A: Founder and Publisher, Tom Spinks says that the magazine became reality because of his frustration with other business publications he has read for the last 30 years. He wanted to read more than an entertaining story. He wanted to know how they did it—he wanted a blueprint to follow.

Q: Who do you interview for your stories?
A: We interview self-made millionaires. Who better to teach someone how to build a million-dollar business than an individual who has already built a million-dollar business? They tell you how they got their clients instead of just giving you a nice story about their success.

Q: How can people become millionaires from reading the blueprints of self-made millionaires?
A: $1,000,000aire Blueprints is written in an easy to follow question and answer format which allows people to follow the lead of a self-made millionaire. We really show readers exactly what the self-made millionaire did, every step of the way. Self-made millionaires share how they got their clients, their greatest ad campaigns, their most productive mail pieces, exact telephone scripts that produced customers and all of their defining moments with our readers so they can learn from them and how they can apply these techniques and strategies to their own business.

Q: Who have you featured in your magazine?
A: We have featured many self-made millionaires. Dan Newman started a collection agency in his house. His company now has annual billings of $75 million. Phil Robertson, “The Duckman,” invented a duck call that he now sells in over 1,000 Wal-Mart stores. Chris Faulkner is the founder of CI Host, a Web hosting company with revenues of $60 million projected for 2005, along with Dippin Dots founder, Curt Jones and fitness icon, Tamilee Webb. There are too many to list here—visit our Web site [WWW.MILLIONAIREBLUEPRINTS.COM] to see the millionaires featured in our current issue. Click on the archived issues icon to view millionaires featured in the past.

http://www.money-talk.org/thread4856.html


50 posted on 12/24/2013 9:23:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Army Air Corps
The experience of the new CEO, Nancy Dubuc, seems awfully thin--hence the "rookie mistake." I think she shot from the hip based on her insularity, as you pointed out.

By the way, that was an old photo of her in the linked article. You should see the makeover! Visit the A&E site--you won't even recognize her. She obviously has an incredibly high opinion of herself, which hubris led to all this. I'm guessing her betters are letting her know now that her self-confidence was misplaced.

Who knows? It might be the first step the Lord will use in humbling her as part of His plan to save her. I don't have any information at all as to her personal spiritual status, but I seen others who allowed circumstances too puff them up then have other circumstances bring them face-to-face with their Creator. Nebuchadnezzar is probably the most outstanding example.

51 posted on 12/24/2013 9:24:37 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Again, well done! You have an outstanding memory.

Mine, at 64, has started to fade--having trouble now remembering names. It's a good thing they've just built an Assisted Living Center 100 yards from our house--my wife can come and visit me there, although I probably won't recognize her!

52 posted on 12/24/2013 9:28:05 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

A bit off topic, but I felt compelled to respond in a small way; I’ve been around local bands for 40+ years, sound, lights, etc. Ever since Jimi played the “Star Spangled Banner” entirely with feedback, the high school dance promoters always made the band sign a “morality clause”, no “F-bombs”, etc. Morality? Whatever they deemed it to be. You just kind of toed the line.


53 posted on 12/24/2013 9:30:46 PM PST by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Note: quotes a television industry insider's profane language.

I noticed that right off.

I always wonder about the caliber of executive leadership in industries where the top talent resorts to communicating with others that way.

I'd like to think that the leadership in my company is literate enough to be able to express complex thoughts in more acceptable ways.

Maybe it's different in the entertainment industry. Maybe they have to talk that way to be taken seriously by others in the field.

-PJ

54 posted on 12/24/2013 9:34:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: printhead
Any show producer has the right to try to control the product, including not bringing disrepute onto the show by inappropriate offstage antics. No doubt A&E has language in their contract to this effect--one imagines a laundry-list of "thou-shalt-nots." I guess the question is whether spouting Scriptural paraphrases somewhat colorfully, which is all Phil did, violates whatever that contract clause says, or even the spirit therein.

I think not, but it's entirely subjective, as you pointed out: "Whatever they [deem] it to be." I think A&E has learned that their "deeming" was inappropriate, to their inarguable surprise--and that was their "rookie mistake." I think your post was exactly on-topic. Thanks for posting.

55 posted on 12/24/2013 9:39:29 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Maybe they have to talk that way to be taken seriously by others in the field.

Undoubtedly, that's entirely the case, and I think the expectation goes well beyond mere language. Their whole culture, Clint Eastwood's Republican Convention assurance notwithstanding, is almost monolithically socially, economically, politically, and religiously liberal.

Here's an amusing anecdote illustrating the point from academia. A Christian apologist spoke at a college campus and had a professor introduce himself as the only evangelical Christian in the department. The apologist said, "You should go talk to that professor over there, who just told me the same thing."

56 posted on 12/24/2013 9:45:55 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: tophat9000

>> Actually that’s article is the best most rational analysis of this whole situation I’ve seen

bttt


57 posted on 12/24/2013 9:46:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
It might be the first step the Lord will use in humbling her as part of His plan to save her.

AMEN! Let's pray on that!
58 posted on 12/24/2013 9:47:17 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: All
Good night everyone, and Merry Christmas!
59 posted on 12/24/2013 9:48:05 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Army Air Corps

Two or more—you and me—have agreed. Lord, save Nancy!


60 posted on 12/24/2013 9:49:00 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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