Posted on 12/22/2013 1:18:37 PM PST by detective
Can you imagine a priest taking a group of altar boys to see the movie “Deliverance?”
According to Tim Robbins, when he was an altar boy in New York City, at the age of ten or eleven, a priest at his church took him and some other altar boys into Times Square to see the R-rated film which contained a brutal homosexual rape scene.
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Good points.
I knew him very well in HS, he was super talented, but I’m sure he was always very left.
I think I saw Deliverance when it first came out, and it certainly wasn’t with my parents or any adult. (I did see it in the movies, but it might have been later, remember no Videos or anything back then - so you might go see an “old” movie a few years after it came out, for like $1!)
Back in those days that “R” thing was not enforced.
This was NYC, in the 70s, the best of times, the worst of times; in truth I miss it.
It’s a good movie, and you don’t see anything in the rape scene, it’s setup with lots of tension but then it jumps ahead. So long as the priest didn’t make any of the kids squeal like pigs no big.
If Deliverance and Clockwork Orange were too intense for you Kill Bill (and really the whole Tarentino library) will not be your thing.
Thanks. Good to know.
I cannot believe anyone would think “Deliverance” depicted homosexuals in a good light. The demented hillbillies hardly presented a picture of homos that GLAAD would approve. I’m wondering if they picketed the film when it came out. Still one of my favorites. Especially liked the scene where Burt plugs Bill McKinney with the arrow.
After the priest died, and the pedophile priest stories broke, we learned of one trip the priest was adamant my cousin could not go on. The cousin was angry at the time. The place was a NYC pool (NY Athletic Club? IIRC) where the priests and boys would swim naked. It still angers me that this future monsignor knew what went on yet did and said nothing. Probably to cover up his drunken, girl friend screwing ways and to get his promotion. He knew - so many knew - and did nothing but protect the pedophiles.
So, yes, Tim Robbins could have gone on field trips with priests.
ok. that makes good sense.
(otherwise, he’s insignificant in world affairs)
I never met a priest that came on to me when I was an altar boy. From what I have read of those priests, they did things in private and told the individual boys not to tell.
Taking a whole group of ten year old boys to an R rated movie would bring a strong negative reaction from parents and church authorities. The priests I met would never do it out of principle. For a homosexual priest it would be a sure way to arouse suspicion and result in action by their superiors. If they were doing something bad with the altar boys it would arouse suspicion and questioning of the boys by their parents that might get the homosexual priest arrested by authorities.
Robbins is lying. It never happened.
Indeed. I finally saw it for the first time this year. I’m surprised the GLAAD/homonazi crowd doesn’t have the film destroyed as “hate speech”.
In between “Deliverance” and his role as Redlegs in “The Outlaw Josey Wales”, McKinney played two of 1970s cinema’s nastiest villains. Quite a change from his likable role as Steve McQueen’s rodeo rival in “Junior Bonner”.
One time a homosexual in our neighborhood lured a 13 year old boy in my class at school into his house with a promise of money and beer to do some minor task inside his house. He tried, but didn't get to do anything. The kid beat him up and ran out. He told everyone. For the next several weeks, people in the neighborhood made his life a living hell. Older teens would ring his door bell and threaten him if he ever tried anything with the kids in the neighborhood. Kids would insult him if they saw him walking his dog etc. Needless to say he would never try it again.
No priest in our parish could come on to an altar boy without everyone finding out and him being in trouble.
If priests did anything it was in secret, not in front of a group of kids.
They would not take a group of 10 year olds to an R rated movie.
Hey Timmy, did you squeal like a pig???
Unfortunately, there were a number of priests at the time who were doing a variety of things with young boys that they should not have been doing...
...firstly, anything expressed as ‘a number’ would take a singular verb conjugation, so...
...secondly, since any ‘number’ of people have been doing all manner of bad things with boys for a great number of centuries, your comment really has little heft to it, don’t you think...?
Probably to cover up his drunken, girl friend screwing ways and to get his promotion.
...funny thing about using the word ‘probably’ to get a point across...based on your post, I might say you are ‘probably’ both ignorant and bigoted...and I would be full of you know what, because I know absolutely nothing about you to make such an unsubstantiated surmise....
...just as you ‘probably’ don’t know anything about the cleric to make your statement anything but unadulterated hot air...
McKinney was one of Clint’s favorite character actors. Watch Bill as the psycho with the rabbits in his car trunk in “Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.” Clint must have paid him well.
I recently read the book, not something that I would normally read but it wasn’t bad. Well written, and there’s a middle chunk when they get on the river that keeps up the tension for the bulk of the book. Of course I might think differently if I didn’t know the movie.
Freegards
Like Geoffrey Lewis, he used McKinney a lot. Bronco Billy and The Gauntlet also come to mind.
He was good actor, convincingly playing psychos, to creepy Sheriffs, to "nice guys".
For what it’s worth, an online story about Robbins, not related to the Deliverance story says he was an altar boy. It talked about his father being a devout Catholic and that in his youth, Robbins was indeed an altar boy. The rest of his story about his age and why he bothered to tell it are another matter.
He was apparently raised Catholic, so I’m open to the possibility he was an altar boy, but he was born in October ‘58 and “Deliverance” dropped the end of July ‘72, so even if his priest took the fellas and did it on opening night, he was 13 if he was a day.
25 years of holiday dinners and family celebrations with the drunken, loud, opinionated monsignor is enough to know the man. He was the family priest. He baptized my mother and siblings, married them, baptized 5 cousins, married them, and baptized some of their kids. Yeah, I knew the guy. He was not a godly man.
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