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Mystery illness claims 4 lives in Montgomery County (Texas)
KHOU 11 News Houston ^ | December 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM | DREW KAREDES

Posted on 12/18/2013 6:45:25 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

Had they been in contact with any border jumpers?


21 posted on 12/18/2013 8:35:42 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Theoria

Curious.

Every few years, especially after some strong winds for a couple of days, I get some kind of allergy attack. I start wheezing and sneezing and coughing and eyes watering. It goes on for a several hours.

It may be 3-4 years before it happens the next time. But, it has happened when I lived in Tulsa, D-FW area and NW Arkansas.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 8:44:24 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: BenLurkin; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ..
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

23 posted on 12/18/2013 8:47:04 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Marcella
This is a reason for having stored food - perhaps this is a mini pandemic affecting only this county, or maybe it isn't and it spreads. I think I am taking a chance if I leave my house since I don't know why people are getting very sick and dying. The four who haven't died are in the hospital 5 minutes from me.

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That sounds like a very good plan to me. Be careful, Marcella. Please keep in touch.

24 posted on 12/18/2013 8:53:13 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: null and void

Fortunately, this is a low-volume ping list?


25 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:23 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Sometimes...


26 posted on 12/18/2013 9:01:04 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: RobinOfKingston

My money is on yes.


27 posted on 12/18/2013 9:02:02 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

“Sounds like Hanta to me.”

X2 Right time of year, too, in that rodents come inside for the warmth and idle heaters turned on.


28 posted on 12/18/2013 9:03:11 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Marcella

Hanta-Virus.

It killed 42 here in New Mexico.

They’d burn the house down of the victims. Not joking.


29 posted on 12/18/2013 9:04:38 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
They’d burn the house down of the victims. Not joking.

Thus releasing the spores over an even wider area. Brilliant.

30 posted on 12/18/2013 9:11:45 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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31 posted on 12/18/2013 9:13:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RadiationRomeo

Plague is easily treated with cheap antibiotics and is endemic in rodents in the western half of the US already.

It’s not the big scary disease it used to be except in remote areas of third world countries that lack adequate medical care.

Even a pneumonic outbreak would be quickly stopped by handing out doxycycline to everyone like candy.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 9:14:09 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: trisham; Kartographer

“Please keep in touch.”

I’ll keep posting to this thread as I learn more. I have our local daily newspaper website open so I can pull it up easily and see what is new. They should get the latest news from health officials before any other source. Their article says all four who died are men. Don’t know the sex of the other four still in hospital and the newspaper said they are very ill.

I really was going to Kroger until I read this FR article. I knew about this yesterday since rightly_dividing put it on our gardening thread - that was a different article than this one. It was this one, “Mystery illness”, thread that hit me over the head. I think I was stuck in a normalcy bias situation because I didn’t think seriously about staying home yesterday; I did think of a quick in and out at the grocery store and wash my hands when I got back.

It was my engineer relative coming that made me want to go to the store in the first place. This is a lesson in survival - don’t be pushed into doing something that could kill you even if you can’t see the thing that would do the killing. I don’t know if this is a viral or a bacterial killer - I can’t see it, it’s not Hussein’s Homeland Security tank, guns, battle dressed men - this killer is invisible to me. What an idiot I was to think of leaving this house when I know for damn sure these people died from an unknown illness.


33 posted on 12/18/2013 9:18:40 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: BenLurkin
Four years ago, at the same time as the swine flu outbreak, there was a nasty pneumonia that was killing people you wouldn't expect to be vulnerable. Pneumonia can be very tricky to cure.

Here's a tip....milkfat and pneumonia can be a lethal combination. That's an opinion, not an acknowledged scientific fact.

34 posted on 12/18/2013 9:22:38 AM PST by grania
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To: txhurl; Marcella

I’ve been sneezing and had a sore throat for several days, but the cedar pollen is starting to show up here. I have this stuff every year and go through boxes of Kleenex when the pollen hits.


35 posted on 12/18/2013 9:23:04 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Marcella
It was my engineer relative coming that made me want to go to the store in the first place. This is a lesson in survival - don’t be pushed into doing something that could kill you even if you can’t see the thing that would do the killing. I don’t know if this is a viral or a bacterial killer - I can’t see it, it’s not Hussein’s Homeland Security tank, guns, battle dressed men - this killer is invisible to me. What an idiot I was to think of leaving this house when I know for damn sure these people died from an unknown illness.

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You know, very often people make fun of these things, because very often they do turn out to be much ado about nothing. Not always, though. Being cautious and prepared is never foolish, and it could save your life, as well as the lives of your loved ones.

36 posted on 12/18/2013 9:24:09 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

“but the cedar pollen is starting to show up here”

I knew someone years ago that got totally sick from cedar pollen and she left the area to get away from it. I’m sure I couldn’t live there.

I live in pine tree pollen in the spring, everything turns yellow from a coating of this pollen, it is so bad you have to use the windshield washer to get the yellow stuff off you windshield because you can’t see through it. I am allergic to grass and tree pollen and I go out and in fast if I have to leave the house during this early spring pollen.


37 posted on 12/18/2013 9:32:45 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Cyber Liberty

(facepalm) Viruses don’t produce spores.

Burning down a rodent infested dwelling may be the best way to deal with it since contact with the urine, feces and nests while trying to clean them up would put you at risk for infection.


38 posted on 12/18/2013 9:39:10 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: AppyPappy

The Spanish Flu killed about 1% of the world’s population after WW1.


My Grandmother died of the Spanish Flu.


39 posted on 12/18/2013 9:42:27 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
“Hanta-Virus.”

We would need to know the area in which the four lived if we think it could be Hanta.

This county is an upscale financial area in most places but this is a large county so we do have plenty of rural areas where rats could live.

I have said before the county is the most conservative county in Texas per capita - it would be hard to find a Democrat liberal living here. You won't find a single Democrat in any office in this county, so there won't be any blaming of white people or rich people for causing these deaths. What you will find, is, as soon as county officials find out what this is, if anything in the county, such as a rural place where diseased rats are found is the problem, it will be stomped out immediately.

40 posted on 12/18/2013 9:46:47 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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