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Chinese rover diorama shows Europe being nuked
io9 ^ | December 17, 2013 9:34 am | Robert T. Gonzales

Posted on 12/18/2013 12:05:48 AM PST by Olog-hai

China deserves all the congratulations in the world for landing its first spacecraft on the Moon. It’s a big deal – both for China and humanity at large. But can somebody please explain why the background image at this exhibit for China’s recently deployed Yutu Rover depicts a massive mushroom cloud over Europe? […]

The most likely explanation—the one we’re hoping for, anyway—is that this was just an unfortunate diplomatic oversight. As a redditor by the name of wigg1es points out, the backdrop is actually a stock image […] Still, there are undoubtedly those who will interpret the choice of image as a deliberate gesture. …

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; europeanunion; eussr; moon; nuclearwarfare; redchina; russia
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, only a severe miscalculation by either side will lead to more than a token military action IMHO.


21 posted on 12/18/2013 2:46:11 AM PST by Truth29
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To: ETL
"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems."

In addition, I will spend the money saved to support an unproven and unwanted health care program.

-excerpts from "Unheard Quotes from barack obama," 2013.

22 posted on 12/18/2013 2:53:37 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: ETL

Thank you Clinton White House for the technical leaks making all this possible!

Hillary was that you?


23 posted on 12/18/2013 2:55:54 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: ETL
"I will not weaponize space"
"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"
-- Barack Obama, 2007 campaign trail

And Americans voted for this. Twice.

24 posted on 12/18/2013 3:25:18 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: MrShoop
Indeed, the image is probably stolen from here

 

It could be Moscow...but that image is a rendering...and not very well done at that. Don't think there's anything sinister here, other than the digital artist not getting their scratch.

25 posted on 12/18/2013 3:32:21 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: Olog-hai
No disrespect, but I'm just pointing out that this story would be mocked & deleted if it were sourced from Infowars.

Oops...they posted it, too. </sarc>

26 posted on 12/18/2013 3:35:29 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: hosepipe

I agree, I also say Truman was a traitor, as was Eisenhower. I’m of the opinion Patton was made to disappear.


27 posted on 12/18/2013 4:09:11 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai
China deserves all the congratulations in the world for landing its first spacecraft on the Moon. It’s a big deal – both for China and humanity at large.

Right. Welcome to 50 years ago.

28 posted on 12/18/2013 4:11:03 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: logi_cal869
Don't think there's anything sinister here

"Some have written the cloud off as a mistake or a coincidence, but this is not a Chinese teenager’s unauthorized blog. The lunar rover exhibit is a high-profile national project that Beijing designed for the world to view. The painting would have required the approval of dozens of high-level officials before becoming a facet of the exhibit.

“That’s not a small cloud either,” a Reddit user who goes by forte2 said of the painting. “[T]hat would have to be bigger than the Tsar Bomba by an order of magnitude.”

If the tables were turned and nasa or the esa had created artwork depicting nuclear weapons being detonated in China, firings and apologies would inevitably ensue. But it would be naive to expect such a reaction from Beijing. In fact, China’s state-run media recently reported on Beijing’s nuclear war plans, including missile strikes on U.S. cities that would kill upwards of 12 million Americans.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11212.30893.0.0/world/military/giant-mushroom-cloud-covers-europe-in-painting-at-chinas-lunar-rover-exhibit

29 posted on 12/18/2013 4:31:39 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Olog-hai

The Chinese who set up the display were from Beijing and innocently mistook the mushroom cloud as “smog”.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 4:35:54 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
And Americans voted for this. Twice

We DO have a growing stupidity crises in the country today, don't we.

Here's the full piece from 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. end it, not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."

31 posted on 12/18/2013 5:09:25 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
Thank you Clinton White House for the technical leaks making all this possible!

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate [flashback Bill Clinton]
richardpoe.com via newsmax.com | May 26, 2003 | Richard Poe

Posted on 01/21/2011 5:01:00 PM PST by ETL

"'We like your president. We want to see him reelected', former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way."

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate
By Richard Poe
May 26, 2003

CHINA WILL LIKELY replace the USA as world leader, said Bill Clinton in a recent Washington Post interview. It is just a matter of time. Clinton should know. He has personally done more to build China’s military strength than any man on earth.

Most Americans have heard of the so-called "Chinagate " scandal. Few understand its deadly import, however. Web sites such as "Chinagate for Dummies" and its companion "More Chinagate for Dummies" offer some assistance. Unfortunately, with a combined total of nearly 8,000 words, these two sites – like so many others of the genre – offer more detail than most of us "dummies" can absorb.

For that reason, in the 600 words left in this column, I will try to craft my own "Idiot’s Guide to Chinagate," dedicated to all those busy folks like you and me whose attention span tends to peter out after about 750 words. Here goes.

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented little threat to the United States. Chinese missiles "couldn’t hit the side of a barn," notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets.

Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.

China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy – equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do their dirty work, while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies.

In 1997, Clinton allowed China to take over the Panama Canal. The Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa leased the ports of Cristobal and Balboa, on the east and west openings of the canal respectively, thus controlling access both ways. A public outcry stopped Clinton in 1998 from leasing California’s Long Beach Naval Yard to the Chinese firm COSCO. Even so, China can now strike U.S. targets easily from their bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.

How did China catch up so fast? Easy. We sold them all the technology they needed – or handed it over for free. Neither neglect nor carelessness are to blame. Bill Clinton did it on purpose.

As a globalist, Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others.

To this end, Clinton appointed anti-nuclear activist Hazel O’Leary to head the Department of Energy. O’Leary set to work "leveling the playing field," as she put it, by giving away our nuclear secrets. She declassified 11 million pages of data on U.S. nuclear weapons and loosened up security at weapons labs.

Federal investigators [Cox Report] later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels" of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton’s open-door policy – probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes. Meanwhile, Clinton and his corporate cronies raked in millions.

In his book The China Threat, Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton’s campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs.

Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.

"We like your president. We want to see him reelected," former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown served as Clinton’s front man in many Chinagate deals. When investigators began probing Brown’s Lippo Group and Chinagate connections, Brown died suddenly in a suspicious April 1996 plane crash.

Needless to say, China does not share Clinton’s enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out for Number One.

"War [with the United States] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it," said Chinese Defense Minister General Chi Haotian in 2000. "The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war." Bill Clinton has given them a good start.

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate:
http://www.richardpoe.com/column.cgi?story=125

or,
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/26/214938.shtml
(this version hasn't the necessary hyperlinks, but the above doesn't seem to be available any longer)
_________________________________

Related Stories
Richard Poe, "Chinagate: The Third-Way Scandal" (June 3, 1999)
Christopher Ruddy, "Russia and China Prepare for War: Parts I - VIII," NewsMax.com (March 9 -18, 1999)
_____________________________________________________________

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
_____________________________________________________________

"As a globalist, [Bill] Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others."

From a 2003 Washington Post article:

"...a statement [Bill] Clinton made in February 2002, in which he told an audience in Australia, 'This is a unique moment in U.S. history, a brief moment in history, when the U.S. has preeminent military, economic and political power. It won't last forever. This is just a period, a few decades this will last.'

Clinton continued...

'In all probability, we won't be the premier political and economic power we are now' in a few decades, he said, pointing to the growth of China's economy and the growing economic strength of the European Union.

Whether the United States maintains its military supremacy, he said, depends in part on how much those other entities invest in their militaries, and Clinton said working cooperatively is essential to U.S. interests.

But he said he did not want to be misunderstood. 'I never advocated that we not have the strongest military in the world...I don't think a single soul has thought I was advocating scaling back our military.'

Source: Washington Post article from May 2003:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62253-2003Apr30&notFound=true

or find his remarks here (Talon News):
Clinton Predicts America's Decline:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/0503/newswire-tn-050503d.htm

32 posted on 12/18/2013 5:17:37 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Bump


33 posted on 12/18/2013 5:33:05 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: ETL
I read it on the internet...
34 posted on 12/18/2013 5:58:02 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

You read what on the internet?


35 posted on 12/18/2013 6:06:29 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Not I; you. That was the message I took from your comment.

You know, we fought this little 5-decade conflict called The Cold War partly because the government led everyone to believe we were behind the Russians to bone up the military.

Then came 9/11 and The Patriot Act, etc, etc.

Pardon if I’m a ‘doubting-Thomas’ when it comes to supposed projections of military threat from China when our neighbors continue to vote in a$$hats that pile on increasingly totalitarian/authoritarian rule and both parties are working together to maintain largesse.

You want an enemy? Open your window blinds, look at your neighbors and look east (but turn around and look west when you hit salt water).


36 posted on 12/18/2013 6:37:29 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: ETL

That’s not a picture of a REAL mushroom cloud over Europe, but it could be, unless you running dog capitalists deliver to the People’s Army ONE MEEELYUN DOLLARS!


37 posted on 12/18/2013 6:41:36 AM PST by thanatz
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To: logi_cal869

On what basis did you name yourself “logi-cal, as in LOGIGAL? Because you can’t seem to even put 2 and 2 together.


38 posted on 12/18/2013 6:42:09 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: logi_cal869

You doubt that that image wasn’t carefully reviewed by higher ups in the ChiCom government? And you, in your “logical” little mind, actually think no one in this group noticed the nuke cloud??


39 posted on 12/18/2013 6:46:15 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Olog-hai

I am sorry to say but with our current doofus we are all doomed.


40 posted on 12/18/2013 7:41:08 AM PST by MistrX
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