Posted on 12/15/2013 2:03:12 PM PST by Hojczyk
The Republican Party has always represented a fusion of two broad groups: those who are driven by ideology and those who grew up in geographic areas that are traditionally Republican and joined the party because it was the obvious way to enter politics.
Call them the Nixon Republicans, these folks live in suburbs or small towns and represent the equivalent of the urban big city machines that spawn and nurture Democrats.
But this party could not get elected. It would not have defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980 or elected Ronald Reagan. It would not have been the vehicle for the Gingrich Revolution of 1994, nor would it have taken the House in 2010.
It required a Reagan, a Newt Gingrich, a Ted Cruz, a Paul Ryan, a Mike Huckabee, or the like to animate it, fill it with ideas and carry it to victory.
For Boehner to cast aside these party enthusiasts and conservative workhorses is shortsighted and ungrateful in the extreme.
The tea party types are amateurs. They are small businesspeople, retired military, doctors and so forth that are professionals in their occupations but amateurs in politics. We need to be patient with their learning curve. They learned a lesson in October when the government shutdown backfired. And they wont make that mistake again. Indeed, their basic acceptance of the Ryan-Murray deal indicates precisely that growth of perspective and maturity.
In this light, the Speakers comments are outrageous and cast real doubt on his ability to lead the House in the future.
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Will you be back telling us to take it easy on crybaby, or will you have disappeared by then?
“Will you be back? “
I am most certainly NOT in favor of amnesty and will tell anyone and everyone that, including the Speaker and my Rep and anyone else who might listen or not. If they cave on that, it will be a betrayal indeed; I mean, I will personally view it as a betrayal of all my immigrant ancestors who came here legally. As well as a betrayal of logical policy, for after all, even MY emotions do not dictate sound policy. HA!
The Speaker has some say over what comes to the floor. Are you saying that the majority of Republicans in the House will vote for amnesty? If so we have a far bigger problem than the Speaker. : (
Now more reason than ever to provide backbone to our reps and Speaker.
I just mean, making fun and ad hominem attacks, will not save the day.
The Huckster is well known. Ryan has made his position along the spectra quite obvious in the last year.
People who think illegals are a burden on schools and medical care should check out how much they cost to arrest, prosecute and incarcerate!!
And next time you talk to our Speaker, ask him if he represents the district of Zuckerberg
He doesn't want to listen to *me*
Name-calling and ad hominem attacks are of the leftists. We can do better than that.
Boehner is the one doing the name calling and backstabbing. Boehner is the one cutting vets pensions and then giving the money to his crony donors.
Blindly carry water for corportatist pigs like Boehner & Ryan if you want. I wont’ be. These losers in the beltway GOP must earn our support. Don’t be a cheap date.
“It looks like a set up for amnesty to me. Cantor is for it, Ryan, Boehner and, why? Because the Chamber of Commerce”
BIG business is not the backbone of America, small business and small holders are. AND we conservatives need to vote for those small business and small farmers with every dollar we spend! Conservative politics cannot overcome what people vote for with their own dollars. : (
Don’t get me wrong. I am not a fan of RINOs, not a fan of BIG corporatilism, not a fan of anything that smacks of dollars greasing other hands. It makes me sick.
just saying that . . . well, I am glad the Speaker is not Pelosi!!, and if we can do anything and everything to hold the Speaker we now have, and all our reps, to the line, we need to; but not by making fun of them as persons and ad hominem attacks.
If they betray us, Heaven Help Them, and that is what we have primaries for.
Heaven Help US but even the worst RINO is usually better than a member of Pelosi’s caucus. What more can I say??
Why not just replace him? He could play more golf. How about that gal from Tennessee as our Speaker? How about Trey Gowdy (unless he's on the amnesty payroll)
why is the highest praise "He's not Pelosi." Which is worse, Pelosi or a speaker that strives to satisfy Pelosi?
“Dont be a cheap date”
HA! That is a cheap shot!
No I will not carry water for them. They do need to earn our support — in the primaries.
They are better than Pelosi and Ried. By a h*** of a long shot. Pelosi and Ried gave us 0 care forced down our throats. At least Boehner still calls for repeal, and the House has voted numerous times to derail the obscenity.
Blame Pelosi, blame Reid, blame 0.
Vote your will in the primaries. Me too.
Hey isnt that the American Way? AND he remembers his roots and hard way up the ladder, even gets sentimental about it.
My dad and his siblings (along with brothers-in-law) went through as bad or worse - even putting aside military service - and while they weren't always paragons of virtue, they would all have stopped short of voting to steal other peoples' money or negotiate away their rights. They may all have been flyover-country failures by DC standards, but at least they weren't mendacious beltway elitists (born or made).
Based on his increasingly problematic behavior, I maintain that John Boehner long ago decided that being a member in good standing of the GOP wing of the Corrupt Bastards' Club was his ticket to never going back to the wrong side of the tracks; and rather than growing in character, he has simply increased his standing with those who can keep him living in the style which with he has become accustomed.
Is he the worst guy in the world? Nah. He has become, however, too much of an enabler of the worst this country does have to offer.
Mr. niteowl77
“Why not just replace him?”
They voted him in, they can vote him out. I have no dog in that fight. I am talking about the Republican Speakership and why we on our part should not destroy the person presently holding it. Hold him accountable, yes (via policy, not personal attacks). Vote him out, if the votes are there and the next guy is better. Fine with me.
“He has become, however, too much of an enabler of the worst this country does have to offer.”
I cannot speak to unknown ill will or bad motives on his part. I will not engage in ad hominem attacks.
He is better than Pelosi, by a huge factor. Morality, policy, decorum even.
I have nothing against him being replaced by a more conservative and more personally noble Speaker.
Just don’t destroy the guy with the tactics of the Left.
How many times do we have to run this play and get stuffed?
#Lugar
“I know you are referring to Washington DC”
Thanks for the note. In context, it appears I am referring to Wash DC, but when I wrote this, I wanted to use “city” instead of Wash DC to get readers thinking in terms of NYC, Chicago, Seattle, and other cities that tend to dominate the information control in their state and the political influence. It isn’t every city or the entirety of every city but that part of each city that controls the information flow. That went too far beyond the main issue, though, so I did not elaborate.
Thanks again for your insightful observation.
“No, they are not “amateurs.” They are citizens, members of the sovereign body of the people, the rulers of the United States of America. “
Correct. And, they vote! And, they pay attention! And, they donate! And, they notice the Dem party doesn’t have a problem with the insane, Marxist base of their party. Knowing this, tea party people know they have to have a strong defense against the left.
Boenher acts like he's wet behind the ears...
Boenher acts like he's wet behind the ears...
The government shutdown backfired?
I thought it was Obama’s doing, through his refusal to work within the rules of three branches, and it was spun by the media, while the dufuses in the party accepted the blame and are now running like rats to people like Patty Murray.
Morris might need to retire.
He is out of it
I agree that he needs encouragement. But Boehner also has to realize that people are expecting more of him, and that he gains nothing by insulting and doing a victory dance over the “defeated” conservative wing. It’s hard to support somebody like that.
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