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SC Sheriff Refuses To Lower Flag For Nelson Mandela
The Greenville News ^ | December 7, 2013 | Eric Connor

Posted on 12/07/2013 2:56:25 PM PST by DJ Taylor

The American flag that flies over the Pickens County Sheriff's Office will be raised high tonight despite an order by President Barack Obama that flags across the country be lowered to half-staff to honor the death of iconic South African leader Nelson Mandela.

Sheriff Rick Clark told The Greenville News that he has ordered the flag be raised at the end of today because he said the honor of lowering flags to half-staff should be reserved for Americans.

"The flag at half-staff is for Americans' ultimate sacrifice for our country," Clark said. "We should never stray away from that."

The flag has flown at half-staff and will continue to during daylight hours today in honor of a Low country law enforcement officer who was killed and in honor of Pearl Harbor Day, Clark said.

However, come tonight, the flag will be raised, he said.

On Thursday, Obama ordered that flags be flown at half-staff on public grounds until sunset Monday.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bho44; leo; mandela; niet; oldglory; rickclark
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To: DJ Taylor
Good for the sheriff.

To order our flag to half staff by that arrogant pos for a communist is outrageous

61 posted on 12/07/2013 4:52:23 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: BykrBayb

“It should have been at half staff for Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day”

You’re right, and back up to full staff on the 8th.
No direct disrespect of Mandella but he’s as American as the imposter is.


62 posted on 12/07/2013 4:52:34 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: dfwgator

That is a completely different situation. Pope John Paul II in 2005, was the Holy Father for all Catholics, not just those in Rome


63 posted on 12/07/2013 4:57:04 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: DJ Taylor
Obama ordered that flags be flown at half-staff on public grounds until sunset Monday.

Why should we lower the American Flag
for a dead KGB Terrorist ?

64 posted on 12/07/2013 4:59:24 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: sergeantdave
Do us patriots a favor and choose your words more carefully.

Do ME a big favor, and explain to me the differences between the bureaucracies that ran Poland then, and the bureaucracies that are in CONTROL of us now.

My words may be more carefully chosen than you can understand.

If you don't understand institutionalization, then you have NO CLUE what is happening to this country now, PATRIOT OR NOT.

That's not an insult, that's an observation.

I've written hundreds of papers on the phenomena of "institutionalization."

You need to study up on what "institutionalization" really is, then you will truly understand what I am talking about.

Again, no insult or diss intended. Study up, get into the real groove about what is going on.

Rant and flame at me all you will, this is the last time I will address you.

Have a really good evening. I mean that.

65 posted on 12/07/2013 5:01:45 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: dfwgator
President Lyndon Johnson’s bestowal of the honor in recognition of the passing of Winston Churchill in 1965.

Churchill was an American and a head of state.

66 posted on 12/07/2013 5:01:52 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: DJ Taylor
The American flag . . . will be raised high tonight despite an order by President Barack Obama that flags across the country be lowered to half-staff to honor the death of iconic South African leader Nelson Mandela.

I find the word "despite" surprising. I am completely indifferent to the commands of that hateful communist. I will follow any demand that he has the power to directly and immediately enforce against me personally, to the extent that he and his minions can compel me to act, and ignore the rest. I don't respect him enough to obey out of loyalty to a government that is no longer of the people, by the people, or for the people. I simply ignore those destructive acts that I cannot stop and hope he will fade into a richly deserved oblivion sooner rather than later.

67 posted on 12/07/2013 5:03:37 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: dfwgator

Reagan was wrong and so was Bush and Johnson.


68 posted on 12/07/2013 5:05:15 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: DJ Taylor

I just got off the phone with the Hampton Inn in Goodyear, AZ where I was staying last week on a business trip. They lowered their flags including the US flag - I told them I was outraged and severely disappointed to see that - especially as a veteran


69 posted on 12/07/2013 5:08:04 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
"USSA has become what us old cold warriors tried to defeat."

In this day and age our young people ignore and deny that over the last forty years Communists have slowly crept into and now control much of our government, but when this is brought to their attention they call themselves patriots because of their ignorance and chastise those who attempt to enlighten them.

The other day at the office, one of my young co-workers asked me how it was that I served multiple tours in Vietnam as a combat infantryman and I didn’t get PTSD. My rather flippant answer was “I didn’t get PTSD in Vietnam, I gave it.”

However, this PTSD question made me wonder what PTSD is and what the symptoms are, so I did a little research on the subject and found that I did indeed possess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) concerning a traumatic and very stressful incident that occurred during my last tour in Vietnam. I was a professional soldier when the traumatic incident occurred and had accumulated over several years in Vietnam engaged occasionally in close combat with a vicious and cunningly capable enemy, but the traumatic event was not as a result of close combat with this enemy.

One day when I was totally focused on closing with and destroying the enemy, something caught my eye, I looked around and found a new enemy had unexpectedly appeared behind me; it was the American people. The same Democrat Party who had originally sent me to Vietnam promising that, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,” had now sided with the Communists I was fighting. They were parading in the streets of the United States under a Viet Cong flag, were quoting from Mao’s Red Book, and were spitting on and flinging insults at returning Vietnam Veterans. Then, a Democrat led Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam War, American combat troops were withdrawn and we abandoned a valiant ally to their fate.

I was ordered out of the country in 1972, and when I arrived at Travis Air Force Base, purposely in the dark of the night, I was advised to change out of my uniform and put on civilian clothing to avoid being attacked by the American people when I entered San Francisco.

I wasn't at all surprised when a few decades later these same people elected a Marxist-Communist as President of what was once my country.

Yes, the deep, burning hatred I feel for the Democrat Party to this day could be diagnosed as a symptom of PTSD, and I assure you, every Vietnam Veteran I know feels the same way.

70 posted on 12/07/2013 5:14:14 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Revolting cat!

“I think that the state of our mainstream media can be in some careful way compared to the state of the media during late Communism.”

Whatever. The state of South Carolina has 20 of Holder’s racist thugs locked up, facing up to 30 years in prison.

South Carolina has two battalions of state-sponsored militia ready to move into action

I’m wondering why people in other states can’t duplicate what SC is doing.


71 posted on 12/07/2013 5:19:15 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: DJ Taylor

The Few... The True...


72 posted on 12/07/2013 5:27:21 PM PST by IWitness
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To: DJ Taylor

Audit coming.


73 posted on 12/07/2013 5:31:56 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: DJ Taylor
“We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,”

Johnny boy Effin Kennedy.

His pig brother Teddy, was instrumental in the debacle that was the "Fall of Saigon.

I was sitting in a "fire point" at Danang, on the last day, 1973. The rockets and mortars poured down on us like rain. Right up to 30 seconds to 8.

Oh Boy, did they HUMILIATE us.

In early '75, (April, how could I forget?) I then was "privileged" to serve in the refugee camp in Subic Bay, Grande Island.

You don't know how may times those people looked me in the face and asked: "What happened to 'pay any price?'"

My only response was that Teddy was murdering pig.

You just kicked up a lot of stuff that I have been sitting on for a few years. BOOYA, not your fault.

Yes, the deep, burning hatred I feel for the Democrat Party to this day could be diagnosed as a symptom of PTSD, and I assure you, every Vietnam Veteran I know feels the same way.

Friend, This one KNOWS EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL.

P.S. Vodka helps.

74 posted on 12/07/2013 5:41:32 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

You’re screaming like a little girl with your caps. Study our Founders and their measured response to the tyranny of King George. I do want you to join our warrior community. Cheers, buddy.


75 posted on 12/07/2013 5:41:38 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Aww Shux,

Cummon there now Serg, there weren’t THAT MANY screamin caps in that post!

You should see when I REALLY get going.

Have a HAPPY.

I gotta stop now, its WAYY past my bed time.


76 posted on 12/07/2013 5:46:20 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: MV=PY

Sherriff Clark is a hero to me.

Before I would half staff my flag I would take it down.


77 posted on 12/07/2013 6:18:47 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: DJ Taylor

I decide when my flag goes to half mast, not someone who bows to foreign rulers...I can obviously make better decisions.


78 posted on 12/07/2013 6:25:13 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“I gotta stop now, its WAYY past my bed time.”

Cool. Enjoy a good night’s sleep, and best wishes to you and yours.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz...


79 posted on 12/07/2013 6:32:34 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Hoodat
When I saw it lowered to half staff, I was wondering why I didn't hear about a soldier who died? Now that I know why, it just shames me to the core. What is happening to our country that we should honor this man so much. I read “Long walk to freedom” when it came out and it is South Africa's man not ours!
80 posted on 12/07/2013 6:33:30 PM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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