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Nelson Mandela, anti-apartheid icon and father of modern South Africa, dies
CNN ^ | 12-05-2013 | By Faith Karimi

Posted on 12/05/2013 2:11:15 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Blackyce

He almost singlehandedly destroyed a prosperous nation and early went to prison for using terrorism to overthrow an elected government.

In America, we do not condone the actions of commie terrorists.


121 posted on 12/05/2013 3:31:05 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Cousin Eddie; Blackyce

Uh-uh... nope... not so good when genuine belief in a genuine God is reduced to being regarded as “ideology.”

Ideology, if you must call it that, matters. Do pay attention to who the “man behind the curtain” is. He’s what is dominating your show, and if he seems okay today, will he be okay tomorrow?


122 posted on 12/05/2013 3:31:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Cousin Eddie

Mark Levin has been interviewing Joe Pollack on his radio show.


123 posted on 12/05/2013 3:31:38 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Red Badger

RIP Nelson...How many streets in SA will be named Nelson Mandela Ave?


124 posted on 12/05/2013 3:32:33 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Now that paints a pretty picture uh ? !


125 posted on 12/05/2013 3:32:53 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Red Badger

That is probably closer than they will miss him


126 posted on 12/05/2013 3:37:31 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ten days. This crap is going to go on for ten days.

It will be wall to wall. Worse than the Kennedy crap.

AND watch how much of his “history” starts in 1960. You will hear/see nothing of the ANC or the SACP from the time he joined them in 1944.

He may have been the man they are saying he was. But he was also a lot more.


127 posted on 12/05/2013 3:37:53 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Oliviaforever

It seems that “stability” is not all to be said about the picture. Relative strength matters too. We can and should thank God of course that SA wasn’t even worse than it was. But we shouldn’t be satisfied until factors (such as socialism) that drag men down are superseded by a God of freedom (and I don’t mean a “theocracy” which is a caricature of that).

Unfortunately, in America “commie terrorists” are now being condoned big time.


128 posted on 12/05/2013 3:39:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Impy
>> We are being overrun with a bunch of revisionist history on the web today to establish a new Camelot. <<

What I just found interesting is a bunch of conservatives on facebook have no qualms about calling Nelson Mandela a "communist terrorist" (in spite of the media image of him as a saintly heroic figure who ended apartheid in South Africa), yet those SAME conservatives have no problem of embracing the FANTASY image of JFK because "we have to convince today's RATs that their party has left them".

Nelson was no doubt a leftist and the ANC is a pretty strongly socialist political party (though not outright communist as some claim), but at least Nelson accomplished something in fighting apartheid and did the right thing by naming deClerk as Vice President during the transition and allowing allow legitimate multi-party elections (though again, it quickly became a one-party system due to the lack of a credible opposition party in SA). What did the saintly JFK EVER accomplish? I guess we're supposed to love him because he managed to NOT get us into World War III or something.

Worse than Mandela, IMO, is the media's other sainted figure from South Africa, Desmond Tutu. Now THERE'S a guy whose lovefest makes absolutely no sense. I think the media just loves him because he's an ultra-left wing "religious" figure, even if his "religious" title carried almost no weight in his country (I think Episcopalians are like 8% of the population in South Africa or something)

129 posted on 12/05/2013 3:40:29 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

True enough... nothing should be worshiped except God. Any mortal icon will disappoint.

Facebook is a weird place (JFK of all people a conservative champion?), but it reflects a weird world.


130 posted on 12/05/2013 3:42:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: billyboy15

Not worth a shit! But you knew that.A South African once told me it was SHIT!,real SHIT.He was right on. Another good communist.


131 posted on 12/05/2013 3:44:08 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Biggirl

Pollock comes across as an apologist,, Mandela was moderate in his eyes. At best he was a mixed bag, Like his friends in his early and later years,, Castro, Arafat, yaknow, the choice of the choice icons that screwed their own people for years and were worshipped by the lamebrain media as piece bringers and freedom fighters.

I had to tune it out.


132 posted on 12/05/2013 3:44:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Red Badger
"Saint" Mandela? Not So Fast! -- He's a Communist, Terrorist, and a Liar.

Mandela communist photos.

So now we have a two week lovefest with Mandela by the MSM and cover for Obama, then Christmas and . . be still my heart. .

133 posted on 12/05/2013 3:44:59 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: billyboy15
So then, since Mandela had the whites thrown out of SA, how have things gone for the blacks?

So when did Mandala throw the whites out of South Africa?

134 posted on 12/05/2013 3:45:41 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: BillyBoy

Tutu’s presence managed to keep at least some sort of connection to God in the picture. As diluted as he was, I don’t think he dipped to the depths of a Jeremiah Wright.


135 posted on 12/05/2013 3:47:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Red Badger

Modern south Africa ?
By chronology only.


136 posted on 12/05/2013 3:54:46 PM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: GeronL

He was a terrorist leader who during his years in prison figured out that he could better achieve his goals if he were the kindly, cooperative, just want to get along face of his movement. He let his POS former wife, family and followers be the enforcers and up front terrorists while remaining “apart” from all of that activity. He was a terrorist just the same and not deserving of the long life he led.


137 posted on 12/05/2013 4:02:02 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Red Badger

I imagine Barry is going to want the U.S. flags at half mast.


138 posted on 12/05/2013 4:15:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you think signing up for ObamaCare was fun, wait until you try to use it.)
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To: Red Badger

Mandela was OK by me. A socialist no doubt, a partisan for black South Africans, an insurgent at best, a terrorist at worst. But for an anti-colonial African leader who came to power in what was basically a revolution he was OK.

Look, we are talking about the continent that gave us Idi Amin, Omar Al-Bashir, and Robert Mugabe. He didn’t declare himself dictator for life, he did not steal every drop of money in the country, he did not have the entire white populace impaled on stakes first day in office. About as good as you are going to get in that area of the world. Most white Africans were probably praying that he would live to be 120... They should get out of there, like NOW.


139 posted on 12/05/2013 4:17:03 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Biggirl
Joel Pollack on Levin stating things have deteriorated in South Africa with higher crime rate. He also just said, "Social justice means they (SA) redistribute to themselves."

"Crime is a prominent issue in South Africa. South Africa has a very high rate of murders, assaults, rapes (adult, child and infant), and other crimes compared to most countries. Most emigrants from South Africa state that crime was a big factor in their decision to leave."

More crime stats Here.

Was sitting on the plane next to a lady from Capetown last year. She obviously was well healed, said things were okay in her neighborhood in Capetown but that the crime rate and general quality of life had deteriorated since Mandela and especially after the guy who took over from him. Said there were roving gangs with AK's in the hinterlands, but not in Capetown. I got the definite impression from her that things weren't like they used to be. .

My take on Mandela is that he was an early communist, but like Clinton, became a moderate once in office. Mandela could have become Mao or really gone to the dark side in one way or another. He did back a South African constitution.

Joel Pollack's article at Breibart Here.

Obama didn't go to Margaret Thatcher's funeral. If he goes to Mandela's funeral . .

140 posted on 12/05/2013 4:22:54 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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