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No charges filed against FSU’s Winston
Tampa Tribune ^ | 12/05/13 | Staff Article

Posted on 12/05/2013 11:13:20 AM PST by shortstop

Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston will not be charged with a crime, State Attorney Willie Meggs said Thursday after his office completed an investigation into a sexual assault complaint filed a year ago.

“We’ve carefully examined the evidence in this case and found that no charges will be filed,” Meggs said at a news conference in Tallahassee.

The decision means Winston remains a favorite to win the Heisman Trophy and will be able to continue playing for the No. 1-ranked Seminoles.

According to a January search warrant released hours before Meggs’ announcement, the woman who accused Winston told police she was raped at an apartment after a night of drinking at a bar.

Meggs said there was not enough evidence to bring the case to trial.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: fsu; heisman; jameiswinston; rapeclaim
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To: MPJackal

Dude, settle down….she was NOT drunk, repeat, she was NOT drunk, repeat, she was NOT drunk….which was the KEY piece of evidence that made her an unworthy witness.

She was NOT drunk, but she did tell at least one lie.

Now, “care to revise your BS statement” (quote from the Fugitive)


61 posted on 12/05/2013 2:26:08 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: nascarnation

LOL...I meant 0.1%. Not it’s 0.08%. Decimally challenged today.


62 posted on 12/05/2013 2:26:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

but I think the parents got millions.

...and I think you have no idea what you are talking about...


63 posted on 12/05/2013 2:28:27 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: 2harddrive

Assuming you were not being sarcastic, the facts do point to that - especially in context of the sexual culture of white girls, black athletes, and the whole range of what’s in vogue now apparently….

I’ve no way to know of course…...


64 posted on 12/05/2013 2:29:06 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: shortstop

There is a basic problem with bringing charges when the police report lists the assailant as being 5’-9” while Winston is 6’-4”.


65 posted on 12/05/2013 2:29:43 PM PST by fso301
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To: MPJackal

When I grew up a gentelman would not take advantage of a woman that drunk. Those that did were considered scum. Yes, I am getting old.

...I assume you realize the purpose of the investigation was to assess the propriety of a charge of rape...not whether the alleged assailant was a shining beacon of light...

...that assessment was answered definitively...


66 posted on 12/05/2013 2:35:54 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: abb

Link to case dox.

http://www.talgov.com/uploads/public/documents/assets/news/tpd-documents.pdf


67 posted on 12/05/2013 2:43:16 PM PST by abb
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To: C. Edmund Wright

According to the documents the complainant’s BAC was .0048, when the test was administered.

http://www.talgov.com/uploads/public/documents/assets/news/tpd-documents.pdf

The issue then becomes how long was the interval between the alleged assault and the administration of the BAC test. She could very well have been legally intoxicated at the time.


68 posted on 12/05/2013 2:55:26 PM PST by abb
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To: Hulka

I do indeed understand the difference, and it is an important one.


69 posted on 12/05/2013 3:22:10 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: nascarnation

0.4 what. By one set of standards that is barely buzzing. By another, that is near dead.


70 posted on 12/05/2013 3:25:03 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: IrishBrigade

I don’t see how the statement is iobtuse. Either way,m it appears to be a case of the powers that be making sure that “the program” is not hurt.

ND football KILLEd a video worker who raised alarm about the wind speed the day he was killed by the football program. They told him to go up in the scissors lift or lose his gig. he tweeted that he was afraid for his life, but he was given a choice between his job and his life. He lost both. ND paid a 40k fine an THAT’S IT. They deliberately, knowingly, willfully compromised his safety because “the program” was more important.

In this FSU story, it sure as hell smells like people who were loyal to “the program” made damn sure that no charges would be filed.

Kind of like a Notre Dame football player rape case that results in the victim;s suicide. Let’s do everything we can to keep this out of the news, out of the courts, the girl’s father was intimidated by friends of “the program”.

That parallel is pretty clear to me.


71 posted on 12/05/2013 3:26:16 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: abb

Having just finished reading the docs provided by the State’s Attorney, there is evidence of sex, but not violent sex.

Her story is filled with gaps...”I don’t know how I got into the cab”...”I found myself at an apartment” types of statements. Other witness statements say she was coherent, talkative, and pursuing Winston.

The accuser’s statements and witness statements follow the same series of events, but from two entirely different points of view.

Winston, while hardly “innocent”, does not seem to be guilty of anything other than poor judgement and an inability to keep it in his pants. When I was 18 I know that I would have hard a hard time resisting a hot 20 year old blonde who wanted to have sex with me.


72 posted on 12/05/2013 3:28:51 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: lepton

This was my ref (sorry for the non-FR approved source).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content


73 posted on 12/05/2013 3:30:57 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Crusher138

The two eyeball witness statements were taken almost a year after the incident.


74 posted on 12/05/2013 3:36:02 PM PST by abb
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To: nascarnation

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75 posted on 12/05/2013 3:37:11 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Juana la Loca

Spot on. Excellent.


76 posted on 12/05/2013 3:42:50 PM PST by Hulka
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To: abb

The two eyeball witness statements were taken almost a year after the incident.


Why? Then the accuser might have grounds to sue the Tallahassee PD for violating her rights.

“The complainant could sue the Tallahassee Police Department”

In addition to suing Winston, the complainant could also sue the Tallahassee Police Department. Specifically, she could file a civil rights claim under Section 1983 of Title 42 of the U.S. Code. Victims of domestic violence have used this law to sue police departments. The complainant could argue that the Tallahassee Police Department, and specifically detective Scott Angulo, intimidated and harassed her. She could say the police dissuaded her from implicating Winston because of Winston’s importance to the Seminoles and the Tallahassee community. She could also highlight arguable missteps by the Tallahassee Police Department, including curiously waiting 10 months to test DNA and not immediately interviewing all the key witnesses, as evidence the police wanted to impede her case.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20131205/jameis-winston-not-charged-florida-state/#ixzz2meMiePJQ


77 posted on 12/05/2013 4:29:14 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

This ain’t over yet, I suspect. As a veteran observer of the Duke Lacrosse Frame of 2006, I’ve followed dozens of these athlete/sex/alleged rapes cases since.

The media meme here is 180 degrees from Durham.

I agree the DA did not have sufficient evidence to charge Winston, let alone secure a conviction.

However, the evidence here is greater than what Nifong had against the lacrosse players by a factor of 100.

But if the Lax case had gone to trial, there would have been a conviction.


78 posted on 12/05/2013 4:34:59 PM PST by abb
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To: VideoPaul

ND football KILLEd a video worker who raised alarm about the wind speed the day he was killed by the football program.

...I don’t know...obtuse seems to be a pretty good word for someone who can’t distinguish between negligence and murder...


79 posted on 12/05/2013 5:05:12 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No, I was not being sarcastic. I think it is highly probable that she made bad choices when drunk that she later regretted. But, why not then COVER UP your mistake? Why PUBLICIZE it?


80 posted on 12/05/2013 5:54:50 PM PST by 2harddrive
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