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1 posted on 12/04/2013 9:52:50 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like something Venezuela or Zimbabwe would do.

I think Venezuela has more admirals than ships


2 posted on 12/04/2013 9:54:38 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well, if they do buy it and try to operate it on their own, the comedy sure to ensue might be priceless............


3 posted on 12/04/2013 9:55:24 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

does Angola have the ability to support this ship? dock it? maintain it?


4 posted on 12/04/2013 9:55:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Torpedo magnet!


6 posted on 12/04/2013 9:58:58 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Straw Man?


9 posted on 12/04/2013 10:01:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Tiny Mouse Makes a Big Splash


11 posted on 12/04/2013 10:07:47 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It seems their biggest ship to date is approximately one-half the size of one of the US Navy’s Perry class FFGs. WTF? A carrier needs sea room to operate effectively - form a protective bubble around itself, maneuver to launch/recover aircraft, etc. They are not coastal beasts. Yet the Angolans don’t seem to have anything that could go out “blue water” with it. Let alone any kind of ASW or AAW capable ships that could defend a carrier. In short it would rapidly become a very expensive sitting duck, and then shortly thereafter a nice man-made reef for divers.


12 posted on 12/04/2013 10:12:26 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s so cute!!


14 posted on 12/04/2013 10:16:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Last week it was announced that Angola was refusing registration of some muhamedan groups and closing illegal mosques. Perhaps they are fearful of ground attacks by irate Muslims and feel the aircraft are safer at sea? Perhaps war with Congo or Zaire?

Very odd indeed.


19 posted on 12/04/2013 10:33:32 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Angola ....it was reported...has decided to get rid of all its mosques......good reason to beef up the military. If this report is true I’d like to buy some Angolan imports....what do they import?


20 posted on 12/04/2013 11:03:02 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What a opportunity to aid the anti-islamics, and all this board has done is insult and denigrate the effort.

Just wow


21 posted on 12/04/2013 11:10:47 PM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Angola wants an aircraft carrier? Do they have any aircraft to put on it? The entire Angolan Navy is only about 1,000 men of all ranks. The crewing of the Principe de Asturias (R-11) was 90 officers, 465 enlisted + 201 air group and a flag staff of 7. If Angola is serious about this ship, it will consume most of their naval personnel to man it.
22 posted on 12/04/2013 11:13:35 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: sukhoi-30mki

LOL

Okey Dokey...

Need carrier group to keep it alive....

Kan’t afford it....


23 posted on 12/05/2013 12:03:56 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

With a deck this size just think how many people can fish with their cane poles and their coffee cans full of worms.


25 posted on 12/05/2013 2:16:56 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That brings to mind Zambia’s space exploration program in the 1960’s. The training of prospective Zambian astronauts included having them crawl into barrels, which were then rolled down a slope, to simulate weightlessness in space.


31 posted on 12/05/2013 7:14:44 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Fight on!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick wanted to bid but getting ship into the Alps was too difficult.


46 posted on 01/14/2017 6:44:19 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Class and type: Príncipe de Asturias-class aircraft carrier
Displacement: 15,912 tons standard,
16,700 tons loaded

Length: 195.9 m (643 ft)
Beam: 24.3 m (80 ft)
Draught: 9.4 m (31 ft)
Propulsion: 2 × Bazan-General Electric LM2500+ gas turbines in COGAG configuration, one shaft, 46,400 shp
Speed: 26 knots (48 km/h; 30 mph)
Range: 6,500 nautical miles (12,000 km; 7,500 mi) at 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph)
Complement: 830 (total); 600 ship crew, 230 air crew
Sensors and
processing systems: Raytheon SPS-52C/D 3D air search radar,
SC Cardion SPS-55 surface search radar,
ITT SPN-35A aircraft control radar,
FABA SPG-M2B fire control radar,
SELEX Sistemi Integrati RTN-11L/X missile approach warning radar,
Selex RAN 12 L target designation radar

Electronic warfare
& decoys: Nettunel electronic countermeasures unit,
Super RBOC,
Sensytech AN/SLQ-25 Nixie decoy

Armament: 4 × FABA Meroka Mod 2B CIWS,
12 × Oerlikon L120 20 mm guns

Aircraft carried: 29 fixed wing and rotary wing aircraft
Aviation facilities: 12° ski jump 46.5 m in length


52 posted on 01/14/2017 3:06:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It's a war against humanity!" Donald J. Trump)
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