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It is time to talk about guns (oath breaker barf alert)
Esquire ^ | 03 DEC 13 | LTC Robert Bateman

Posted on 12/03/2013 5:58:06 PM PST by DCBryan1

People, it is time to talk about guns.

My entire adult life has been dedicated to the deliberate management of violence. There are no two ways around that fact. My job, at the end of the day, is about killing. I orchestrate violence.

I am not proud of that fact. Indeed, I am often torn-up by the realization that not only is this my job, but that I am really good at my job. But my profession is about directed violence on behalf of the nation. What is happening inside our country is random and disgusting, and living here in England I am at a complete loss as to how to explain this at all. In 2011 the number of gun deaths in the United States was 10.3 per 100,000 citizens. In 2010 that statistic in the UK was 0.25. And do not even try to tell me that the British are not as inclined to violence or that their culture is so different from ours that this difference makes sense. I can say nothing when my British officers ask me about these things, because it is the law.

And for that, frankly speaking, I am embarrassed by our Supreme Court.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
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To: DCBryan1

2nd Amendment bump for later.......


81 posted on 12/03/2013 10:46:08 PM PST by indthkr
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To: DCBryan1
[Art.]
People, it is time to talk about guns.

Funny, some L.A. Slimes op-ed skank said the same thing just yesterday .....

Must be another Media Campaign (C) cranking up. More distraction from Sovietcare screw-ups.

82 posted on 12/03/2013 10:57:36 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: DWar
The VAST MAJORITY of gun violence in America is GANG RELATED.

They don't want the gang-bangers' guns, man. They want yours. You're the Main Enemy and have been since before Betty Friedan started scribbling Commie op-ed in the newspaper of a Red union rag back in the 40's.

You're a free man. They hate that.

83 posted on 12/03/2013 11:01:18 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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FO, scumbag.


84 posted on 12/03/2013 11:08:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DCBryan1

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


85 posted on 12/04/2013 2:48:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: DCBryan1
And for that, frankly speaking, I am embarrassed by our Supreme Court.

And I am embarrassed by you. Get another job if you are ashamed of yours.
86 posted on 12/04/2013 3:30:49 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DCBryan1

The govt will protect you....oh wait, no it won’t. People like this clown can and will rot in hell.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0


87 posted on 12/04/2013 3:41:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: sean327

Excellent email! Mine was much more succinct!


88 posted on 12/04/2013 3:44:51 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
89 posted on 12/04/2013 3:46:24 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: DCBryan1

Why would anyone care what Master Bateman thinks? He’s just some state worshipping loon with a messed up digestive system where feces come out of his mouth as well as his other end. And I guess he mistakes those selfsame feces for wisom. I’m sure no one with functioning brain cells does.


90 posted on 12/04/2013 4:02:59 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DCBryan1

LTC Bateman: Are you completely ignorant of the history of the 20th Centuty? Because I am not, and neither are millions of others. And the history shows that gun confiscation has led to people getting marched to camps. Brush up on this history here: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

I hadn’t been to the rifle range in over a year, and managed to get out on some family land the Saturday after Thanksgiving. I learned I can still get on paper at 225-250 yards with iron sights, for which I was complimented by the Marine boyfriend of a niece who was present. I do even better with glass. This with hardware you would confiscate.

There are a lot like me out here. A lot.

Do you really want to push this country beyond the Claire Wolf stage? Think long and hard, and beyond some stupid “trying to make O6 with an article that brown-noses the current President and his leadership” article.


91 posted on 12/04/2013 4:51:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: driftdiver
You may be right about officers in the last 20 years or so, which unfortunately means those who are still serving. But my father, a Korean War and Vietnam-era armor officer, is rabidly pro-2nd Amendment, so much that I figure he's to the right of Attila the Hun.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

92 posted on 12/04/2013 4:55:45 AM PST by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Ping! Had to share this "brilliant" essay from across the pond--LOL!
93 posted on 12/04/2013 5:01:49 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: DCBryan1

I guess a question needs to be asked...who approved his using his official status in writing an editorial? He uses his rank, capacity, status, etc. to justify what he’s saying. Essentially he’s speaking on behalf of the DoD and the last time I checked, one had better have prior approval by some pretty ranking folks to do that.

The military has always been real careful about allowing active duty personnel to “represent” the views of the DoD. Specifically, only PR type folks were permitted to present views based on official capacity.

We could write and post, but I cannot recall ever being permitted to use my status/rank as some kind of means to legitimize my position because it was my position, not the military’s.

Anyway, this pos can go eff himself.


94 posted on 12/04/2013 5:05:35 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: DCBryan1

He and Piers must be sisters separated at birth?


95 posted on 12/04/2013 5:52:50 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: TADSLOS

Well, some folks (officers) who work there way up have a lot to thank their senior enlisted people for giving, or being asked (more important) for their opinion...

I don’t go beating my chest about the things I did, they are memories of a time when I felt I did a fairly good job keeping things, and personnel (eventually) together...And working as a team...It was a natural progression, those who were senior to me instilled that kind of mindset into us, as they understood that they would not be around forever...Not a fatalistic view, but one due to the rotations in their careers...

There were even a few times when the department heads, and even the CO’s would come and ask us (NCO’s) about the officers we worked with, to compile a good picture for their evaluations...That may sound strange, but it was a good idea from those officers to get those inputs from people they’ve worked with and trusted to give objective observations...They wouldn’t have asked, if our input wasn’t factored in in some way, shape or form...

I never worked with an officer that held his commission, or the people he worked with in contempt, for very long...This guy probably skated through the system...

I would be neat to see what some of his folks think of him...


96 posted on 12/04/2013 6:05:43 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: wku man

I’m somewhere to the right of Attila, too. Government shouldn’t be involved in moral issues, all firearms laws that are on the books that aren’t the Second Amendment must be null and erased. National Guard immediately deployed to the southern border, until a moat and 30ft high sheer wall can be constructed.


97 posted on 12/04/2013 7:17:17 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: driftdiver; Travis McGee
Also I know a lot of military officers who are very anti-gun. I think its their training.

Well now, I take offense to that remark and I know a HUGE number of other officers and former officers that would agree with me. Speaking as a former army Infantry Captain, my training in combat tactics in no way had anything to do with being anti Second Amendment. Our very own Travis McGee is a former SEAL officer. You agree with that statement Matt? How many SEALs do you know that would be willing to kick some tail over such a slander?

Now, it is true that a huge number of GENERAL OFFICERS do feel that way, but they're falling into line with the desires of their masters in the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) to which 90% of them belong, as does the POTUS, everyone in his cabinet down to the fourth level of staff assistants and the veep. But I don't think anybody takes little joey biden seriously.

98 posted on 12/04/2013 11:40:37 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier

You’re kind of a sensitive guy for a military officer. Your offense doesn’t change the officers I know who are very anti gun.


99 posted on 12/04/2013 12:00:30 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Hey that's my motto: Tough but sensitive! When I was single and on active duty, it worked very well for me with the young ladies. I'll wager the officer's who're antigun are not of the combat arms variety. "Trigger pullers" tend to take seriously the oath of protecting the CONSTITUTION from all enemies, foreign and domestic ...

It also would not surprise me if those officers were commissioned via one of the military academies. Most ROTC folks like myself come from a more well rounded and not nearly so elitist mindset.

100 posted on 12/04/2013 5:42:10 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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