The Pope Is Wrong about Capitalism: Free Markets Are Best for the Less Fortunate

Townhall ^ | 12/02/2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

[Salvation]

Are you now the judge over Christ?

[Salvation]

** trickle-down theories**

Exactly what is mistranslated.

[redgolum]

Many have an issue. They feel they have to defend the Pope, even when he says something they think is wrong (note this is not about faith or morals, so they are under no obligation to find it infallible).

The most convenient take is to call it a bad translation, and run with it.

[bunkerhill7]

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[Navy Patriot]

Free market Capitalism provides the greatest good for the greatest number, including Catholics.

[Sioux-san]

And then there’s that - no excuse for being an ignorant socialist any more...one must take full responsibility for advocating systems and actions that have failed miserably for the world’s poor. There’s the world we wish we were in and the world we are actually in. An old boss of mine once said “You gotta do well if you want to do Good” (meaning good deeds). Shooting down the producers sure isn’t going to help anything but concentrate power and control into the hands of a very few evil people, IMHO. The Vatican hopes to be the one that brings in the NWO/Global Govt.

[ZULU]

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Take two aspirin and call me in the morning if it doesn’t improve.

[Dr. Thorne]

Pope Frank is a socialist who is softening the catholic church's stance on homosexuality and abortion. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. But, catholics on FR are not concerned. He's the pope, so he's always right.

The pope could be caught sodomizing a choir boy and catholics would say he was taken out of context.

[vette6387]

“The Vatican hopes to be the one that brings in the NWO/Global Govt.”

Yeah, that’s the ticket, a global government run by the Pope! As far as “wealth redistribution” is concerned, the Pope and Obama are on the same page. Abortion, not so much!

[Buckeye McFrog]

Thanks! That translation is more encouraging than others I’ve seen. At least you can take that as traditional exhortation of Catholic businessmen to do the right thing.

[kobald]

Yep. The current system may be called "capitalist", but it's degenerated into the cynical version of the "golden rule" (them that has the gold makes the rules). It's cronyism and corruption, with few traces of anything resembling a genuine free market.

[expat_panama]

** trickle-down theories**   Exactly what is mistranslated.

The "mistranslated" part was from edwinland in post 39.

Imho most of us know far too well what they meant by "some people" who "defend trickle-down theories" that are "never been confirmed by the facts".  We have to put up with that tired old song and dance all the time on loony left wing forums.

It's a crock.

[edwinland]

To be clear, the major mistranslation is changing the term “by itself” to “inevitably”. This change eliminates a possible interpretation that the free market needs to be supplemented (presumably by institutions such as the Church) rather than replaced, to bring about equality and inclusion. I have no objection to that proposition.

My friend says that the original Spanish is literally “spill over”. I don’t think “trickle-down” is a mistranslation exactly, but the problem is that trickle-down is usually used by opponents of the free market, so it has a lot of cultural baggage which he may or may not have intended when he wrote the letter in Spanish.

[expat_panama]

True, switching 'by itself' with 'inevitably' is a big change of meaning.  So having personally written and dealt official documents in Spanish and English I can understand the hurdles, that's why we usually pick one language to govern.  That's also why we can't say "trickle down" and "inevitably" are mistranslations if the show up in the governing text.  Additionally, if all languages have equal weight then they're all valid documents.

The overriding problem however is with the extreme left-wing straw man that accuses normal people of being anarchists for merely wanting reasonable control over the fruits of their labor.  It's unfair and uncalled for and it's path to Marxism.