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Impeachment Over Obamacare?
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 12/02/2013 5:03:05 AM PST by Kaslin

Since being signed into law by President Obama in 2010, the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, has been stripped, changed and full of devastating consequences for the American economy and American families. It's clear by now that the White House and Democrats who voted for Obamacare, lied to millions of Americans when they said, "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it. Period." We not only saw President Obama admit during a healthcare summit in early 2010 (before signing Obamacare) "that between eight million and nine million people may very well lose the coverage that they have, because of this...And I don’t think that you can answer the question, in the positive, to say that people will be able to maintain their coverage, people will be able to see the doctors they want in the kind of bill that you’re proposing."

Republican Whip Eric Cantor Speaks With President Barack Obama At White House Health Care Summit

Then in September of 2010, every single Senate Democrat voted against a resolution that would allow people to keep their healthcare plans.

In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it.

Three years later in November 2013, we saw Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admit under oath in front of Congress that end-to-end security testing was not done on Healthcare.gov before it was launched on October 1, putting the personal information of Americans at risk and making them vulnerable to fraud and identity theft.

As a result of all of this and the trashing of the U.S. constitution in the process, Associate Professor of Economics at St. John’s University, New York. M. Northrop Buechner is practically making the case for President Obama's impeachment in Forbes:

The Constitution authorizes the President to propose and veto legislation. It does not authorize him to change existing laws. The changes Mr. Obama ordered in Obamacare, therefore, are unconstitutional. This means that he does not accept some of the limitations that the Constitution places on his actions. We cannot know at this point what limitations, if any, he does accept.

By changing the law based solely on his wish, Mr. Obama acted on the principle that the President can rewrite laws and—since this is a principle—not just this law, but any law. After the crash of Obamacare, many Congressmen have implored the President to change the individual mandate the same way he had changed the employer mandate, that is, to violate the Constitution again.

The main responsibility the Constitution assigns to the President is to faithfully execute the Laws. If the President rejects this job, if instead he decides he can change or ignore laws he does not like, then what?

The time will come when Congress passes a law and the President ignores it. Or he may choose to enforce some parts and ignore others (as Mr. Obama is doing now). Or he may not wait for Congress and issue a decree (something Mr. Obama has done and has threatened to do again).

The most important point is that Mr. Obama does not consider himself bound by the Constitution. He could not have made that more clear. He has drawn a line in the concrete and we cannot ignore it.

Impeachment isn't going to happen with a divided Congress, but that doesn't mean there isn't a solid case for it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; barack0bama; impeachment; obama; obamacare; obamadontcare
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To: TheRhinelander

There are a lot of freaking books out there. To which are you referring?


21 posted on 12/02/2013 5:40:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: duckman

That’s a much stronger assertion than just your opinion.

The consequences, though, are this - and liberals should be asked to defend it -

Obama can do WHATEVER he wants to do without consequences (I would include religious genocide it the “whatever”)

- is that the kind of power a president should have?


22 posted on 12/02/2013 5:40:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DoodleDawg; sickoflibs
Yeah right.....the most transparent administration is certainly above political shenanigans during elections.....or any other times.

I stand corrected :^

23 posted on 12/02/2013 5:43:24 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: DoodleDawg

Good point.

Robamaney was a pi$$ poor candidate.

Almost as bad as McInsane in 20018.

That is not to say the dems do not engage in voter fraud as a matter of course, but the rebublicrats should at LEAST offer a viable candidate before worrying about whether a few thousand, or even a few hundred-thousand, fraudulent votes cost them an election.


24 posted on 12/02/2013 5:45:31 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS

...or even, McInsane in 2008...


25 posted on 12/02/2013 5:46:39 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: DoodleDawg; Guenevere
RE :”Because after all how could a candidate the likes of Mitt Romney ever loose? </sarcasm>”

I vaguely recall Romney claiming he would cut some taxes, drill some oil and make some completely unspecified spending cuts. And maybe make some changes to medicare that wouldnt start until 2022.

He and Ryan said they would let congress figure out what to cut in spending AFTER he took office.

I guess Obama's lies sounded better to swing state voters than Romney's lies did.

26 posted on 12/02/2013 5:53:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: WayneS

The Constitution and the Federalist papers. What good is it to impeach without a conviction? Nothing. Nada.


27 posted on 12/02/2013 5:55:23 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: sickoflibs
"it was called the election and it failed."

I agree it failed, but now we are learning it had lots of help. Namely IRS.
Don't forget the LSM.

28 posted on 12/02/2013 5:56:42 AM PST by DeaconRed (Jack Daniels if you please, knock me to my knees. Until ZERO is GONE! ! ! !)
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To: TheRhinelander

Okay.

I’ve never thought of the U.S. Constitution as a book, though.


29 posted on 12/02/2013 5:58:45 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: sickoflibs
You're preaching to the choir....

I was responding to

There is a very traditional, popular and fully legal process for going about this that took place last November, it was called the election and it failed

And I responded.....Or was it stolen....

You keep regurgitating Romney/Ryan.....

Yes, we know about them.

30 posted on 12/02/2013 6:02:01 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

We know that less votes were tallied for Romney than were for McCain previously.

Notice I’m not saying less people voted against Obama...

could be, could be just that fewer were tallied.


31 posted on 12/02/2013 6:03:43 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DeaconRed; DoodleDawg; Guenevere
RE :”I agree it failed, but now we are learning it had lots of help. Namely IRS. Don't forget the LSM”

And Obama promising voters that Obamacare would let them keep their doctors, when it was not true.

But over on the Romney side things were not well at all.
I mean Rush, Rove, Romney campaign (like that windbag Sununu) all claimed they were sure that it was looking like a big win for Romney.

Broken compass leads to wrong direction.

32 posted on 12/02/2013 6:10:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Guenevere
RE :And I responded.....Or was it stolen....
You keep regurgitating Romney/Ryan”

If you were to hand my wallet to a thief by accident then tell me it was stolen from you by him I would have trouble with that explaination.

33 posted on 12/02/2013 6:13:24 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
"But over on the Romney side things were not well at all."

Mittens was part of their plan. Once again we let the LSM & the RATS pick our candidate.
It was over before it ever started.
They cheated, BIG TIME & got completely away with it. Not just the IRS, remember the phony jobs report it all was part of the plan. And it worked. Nixon must be roliing like a top in his grave.
They think they can get away with the obama-don't care. It is looking more and more like they will too.

34 posted on 12/02/2013 6:31:25 AM PST by DeaconRed (Jack Daniels if you please, knock me to my knees. Until ZERO is GONE! ! ! !)
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To: TheRhinelander

......I agree with you BUT we need to start honing and perfecting and polishing the case against the sob so that we can be READY to shout it
from the mountain tops on the hour every hour every single day between now and the election. Then maybe we can drag a few LIV’s on board because to get Obama a cell in Leavenworth were going to need to educate a few million LIV’s!

In the meantime PRAY, this ship is sinking fast with more damage being done daily.


35 posted on 12/02/2013 6:37:08 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Kaslin

If it isn’t going to happen, then why write about it? Even if the gop had control of both houses of Congress, the chance of an impeachment of dear leader is nil. Assuming that the gop had the intestinal fortitude to impeach, which it does not, why would the gop even want to? The gop is quite happy to see the scope and breadth of government expanded. The gop is quite happy to see the executive wield extra legal powers.


36 posted on 12/02/2013 6:39:01 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: DeaconRed
RE :”Mittens was part of their plan. Once again we let the LSM & the RATS pick our candidate.
It was over before it ever started.
They cheated, BIG TIME & got completely away with it. Not just the IRS, remember the phony jobs report it all was part of the plan. And it worked. Nixon must be roliing like a top in his grave.
They think they can get away with the obama-don’t care. It is looking more and more like they will too.”

I cant argue with any of that.

On Obamacare, Obama doesnt care if 2014 is another 2010 bloodbath as much as a he cares that Obamacare go forward.

We all know that once a large # of people get subsidized or free Obamacare, then trying to take it away will be politically near impossible.

The GOP has been given a rare opportunity now to trot out endless numbers of victims of Obamacare, a game that Desm always play expertly, and they need to not let up.

37 posted on 12/02/2013 6:39:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: John Valentine
Obama is failing to faithfully execute the laws and therefore is violating his oath of office.

I don't disagree, but the Republicans must make an articulate and cogent case against him before uttering the word "impeachment" in the House of Representatives. And while they don't have to convince everyone, they must at least cause people to raise their eyebrows, and maybe even get a few lime-minded Democrats on their side. Otherwise, the GOP looks petty.

I say this, not in defense of Obama, but because I recognize that impreachment is more a political thing than a legal one. One need only look back as far as Bill Clinton, to see that. People wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt--remember, "it's not really an impeachable offense if the economy's doing great, right?" What sort of benefit would Obama get?

You can bet that Obama's defenders will argue and mince words, using logic like, "he had to bend the law, in order to enforce the law!" Or, "he's using effective project management skills to adjust the enforcement timing." And until the Republicans can get more that Fox News to report a story accurately, or until they get film of Obama in a hot tub with a 14 year-old boy, they're only going to look silly. If they couldn't make the events in Benghazi stick, they're not going to make "failure to faithfully execute laws" to stick.

38 posted on 12/02/2013 7:04:35 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: sickoflibs
There is a very traditional, popular and fully legal process for going about this that took place last November, it was called the election and it failed.

The chances are good the election was stolen by massive fraud, so add one more impeachable charge to the pile.

39 posted on 12/02/2013 7:31:43 AM PST by Gritty (You can't fix crazy any more than you can fix stupid. Obamacare was never going to work.-Steve Deace)
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To: Kaslin

No one has the balls to even try


40 posted on 12/02/2013 7:45:34 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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