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'Humans evolved after a female chimpanzee mated with a pig
Daily Mail ^
| 09:45 GMT, 30 November 2013
| By DAMIEN GAYLE
Posted on 11/30/2013 3:12:24 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: driftdiver
“Also msans you were incorrect when you said this wasnt science.”
Oh, ok. I defer to you on all scientific matters from now on.
To: exDemMom
He has a grand total of 5 publications listed in PubMed, the most recent in 2006which is an awfully low number.Publish or perish, he was probably up for a grant renewal or something.
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posted on
11/30/2013 10:48:43 AM PST
by
verga
(The devil is in the details)
To: bert
Who wants to fight a bunch of mean drunks for a meal?
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:19:16 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: verga
Publish or perish, he was probably up for a grant renewal or something. He doesn't work in research. Grant renewals and "publish or perish" don't apply here.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:25:43 AM PST
by
exDemMom
(Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:27:12 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: RFEngineer
He is at pains to point out that that it is merely a hypothesis Its an interesting observation, but alas just a hypothesis and as such is specifically NOT passed off as science.
This ... assertion, for lack of better term ... doesn't even rise to the level of "hypothesis." In order to formulate a hypothesis, one must work with the body of scientific knowledge known so far, using one's knowledge of chemistry and physics to come up with a logical, plausible, and testable hypothesis.
This guy did not formulate a hypothesis. He made a wild speculation which is only superficially based on scientific observation (pigs are furless! humans are furless! therefore they must be related!). Furthermore, the wild speculation is easily shown wrong. One can start by comparing chromosome numbers and go from there, if one wants--but it really isn't necessary, since the drastically different chromosome numbers already make the assertion a no-go.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:34:13 AM PST
by
exDemMom
(Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
To: Eurotwit; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:36:24 AM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
To: exDemMom
This guy has had scientific training, but he's just a nut job. Wild speculation does not become science just because someone who was scientifically educated came up with the ideas. In order for a scientific hypothesis (not theory) to be genuine, it must be logically based in known facts--which this guy's speculation is not. In the science world, a theory is not speculation--it is the framework that ties together and explains a body of knowledge in a specific subject. That's the way it's SUPPOSED to be.
It's clearly stepped over that line lately.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:39:48 AM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
To: Brooklyn Attitude
This so called theory must be a joke. As a scientist it is hard for me to believe that anyone who even took high school biology would think pigs and apes could breed. If it is not a joke then it is really disturbing that such a biological illiterate who claims to be a geneticist could get a job at a university. This is like a physicist claiming to have invented a perpetual motion machine. This guy actually holds a PhD in genetics, if we are to believe his Google profile. But he does not work at a university. He disingenuously claims to be "of the University of Georgia", but that's only because he was educated there.
It is not unknown for even PhD trained people to become kooks instead of scientists. Just like MD trained people sometimes end up being quacks instead of physicians. It happens.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:43:51 AM PST
by
exDemMom
(Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
To: Madame Dufarge
About a hundred years ago, I worked as a secretary for a biochemist at a California lab. At the time, he was working on perfecting an artificial heart valve for humans. They were using pig hearts for their research, since their structure was the most similar to a human heart. Interesting. Back in grad school, I read about an effort to genetically engineer pigs so that they would not add a certain sugar to cell surface receptors, which would make their organs more compatible to human physiology.
At the time, I wondered, if this is successful and pigs can be grown as organ donors for humans, do the organ recipients get the ham and bacon from the donor pig?
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:49:08 AM PST
by
exDemMom
(Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
To: tflabo
The internal organs do resemble human anatomy. As do the internal organs of any mammal. There are larger differences in the surface antigens of the cells that form the organs.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:50:49 AM PST
by
exDemMom
(Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
To: Young Werther
“She got porked!”
So many people view this as impossible, but then think “well - it only has to happen ONCE!”
With that said, how many times does one think that a male pig screwed a monkey? And how many times has a male monkey screwed a female pig? I would think the later (both the mechanics of it all, and observing monkeys on tv and at the zoo that look like they will screw anything - (”animate, inanimate - it didn’t matter” (Jimmy Buffet) - that the odds would favor that “Adam” was a monkey and not a pig.
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posted on
11/30/2013 11:58:13 AM PST
by
21twelve
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
To: metmom
Not much one can say when confronted with this kind of embrace of ignorance.
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posted on
11/30/2013 12:35:15 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Pollster1
>> “Possible, but even with the supporting evidence, I have doubts.” <<
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What “supporting evidence” would that be?
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posted on
11/30/2013 12:37:33 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Eurotwit
I know from my extremely limited experience with pigs that sometimes you have to hit them until they’re angry before they get up on their feet.
To: Eurotwit
Proof that there is much insanity in the world.
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posted on
11/30/2013 1:13:07 PM PST
by
count-your-change
(you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
To: Thumper1960
makes as much as everything postulated here...
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posted on
11/30/2013 1:14:21 PM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi 8-)
To: editor-surveyor
Yup. Sometimes you can be left kind of speechless.
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posted on
11/30/2013 1:22:18 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
To: Eurotwit
This guy’s a riot! I haven’t seen a bona fide case of death wish for a looooong time lol!
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posted on
11/30/2013 1:54:34 PM PST
by
Silentgypsy
(Mondays should be outlawed.)
To: tflabo
I don’t know. Can’t I just be a pig? Who needs the ‘male chauvinist’ part? I think that’s demeaning. These folks need to respect our differences. Besides, it’ a disease. I was born this way. It’s in my family history. It’s in my genes.
Sad day in American, when folks are singled out for their personal choices...
;^)
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posted on
11/30/2013 1:59:42 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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