1) Do you support the repeal of the 12th amendment? If not, please explain why you do not wish to return to the type of federal government the founders originally set up to provide for a balance in government.
2) Do you support the use of recall elections? Would you like to see recall extended so we would have the power to recall U.S. Senators and Congressmen? Would we need a Constitutional amendment to do so?
3) If government-appointed Senators would be vastly superior to the system we have now, and produce a U.S. Senate of wise constitutional statesmen that represent the interests of their states and reign in federal overreach, wouldn't the same be true if the LOWER house was appointed by state legislatures as well? Wouldn't it produce much better Congressmen who stand for state interests and respect local authorities? If so, is there any reason you wouldn't favor having a 100% appointed lower house, aside from the fact "the founders" didn't set it up that way? If the government-appointed method produces better federal officials, then didn't the founders err by opting for the "inferior" method of having citizens elect their Congressmen?
4) When, specifically, did you realize that "our Republic was destroyed" due to Senators being elected instead of appointed? By any chance was in the last 10 years that you "discovered" we MUST return to the method used in 1789 to "save our Republic"?
5) Were the government-appointed U.S. Senators in power back in 1913 (you know, the ones who passed the 16th and 17th amendments in the first place), a body of wise elder statesmen who represented the best interests of their states and understood federalism and upheld the separation of powers? If not, why do you think repealing the 17th would magically make the Senate do so now, when it didn't for decades BEFORE the 17th became law?
6) By any chance are you a Mark Levin fan?
LOL,
I can guess the answer you will get:
‘These were my ideas I thought up all by myself. I think they are great ideas. Did he suggest this too? Why do you ask that?’
Been there many times.
2 I support recall of senators IF they are state appointed. An amendment is required.
3 You choose to remain ignorant of the history of democratic republics. BTW, the proper word is "rein," not "reign." No, the House was designed to represent the people and should be popularly elected. Consent of the people, as represented in the House is fundamental to republics. Entirely democratic legislatures are certain to lead to tyranny, the face of which is Obama.
4 I don't recall when I figured out the framers got it right.
5 The pre-17th Senate far better secured the un-enumerated powers that remained with the states. That was a stupid question, even for you.
6 Yes.
You boys are hung up on the virtue, or lack thereof, of individual politicians. The framer's system was designed to minimize the fact that men are not angels. Rule of law v. rule of man, get it? For a trio of self-style historians who claim to "know facts" you really don't know jack.
Oh, and 16th, 17th amendments were the progressive's wet dream. Without them, the explosion in government, New Deal, Great Society, Obamacare would have been impossible. If you think "Government exists to do what people cannot do for themselves," you are not grounded in our history, but are pure progressive. Congratulations.
I was going to suggest you take a trip through The Federalist. Don't bother.
Until the next thread, Ciao'.