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Posted on 11/26/2013 9:07:36 AM PST by John W
The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday accepted an Obamacare law appeal over contraception coverage.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
You know... if they really wanted too... they could use this case to eliminate the employer mandate altogether. But my prediction is Roberts will side with Obammy. I’m convinced they have something serious on this guy.
Why does Justice Roberts NOT change his decision on the previous Obamacare case? I want to know the definitive answers to this question, along with where, in the world, was Barack Obama, really, born?
I don’t think he can do that. Think we’d all like to know all we could about him, we know next to nothing.
“the inside conspiracy theory is safe internet fodder….but it’s almost NEVER the answer.”
Na, no conspiracy at all.
Benghazi cover up, no conspiracy at all.
IRS Targeting the tea party and it’s coverup, no conspiracy at all.
Fast and Furiouse gun running and coverup, no conspiracy at all.
Intentionally lying about Obamacare to get reelected and
and the media going along with it knowing it was a lie,
no conspiracy at all.
Who do I believe, you or my lying eyes?
Totally absurd and irrelevant analogies…….for so many reasons, not the least of which is that there is concrete evidence of those cover ups and lies. None exists for this sitaution. I mean, so flawed and non-analogous it’s hard to know where to start.
But at least you scratched your self righteous itch….
Totally absurd and irrelevant analogies…….for so many reasons, not the least of which is that there is concrete evidence of those cover ups and lies. None exists for this sitaution. I mean, so flawed and non-analogous it’s hard to know where to start.
But at least you scratched your self righteous itch….
Thanks for the sane response. I don’t think this decision is as much about contraception, as it is about how a business can “opt out” of government regulation.
The good guys will lose this one too. It’s just the way of the court today.
To what would severability be applied to? The ACA Law? Or, 0’s version of it (key: It’s not on paper)?
Not if they still have hanging over him whatever it was they used before. I predict that as soon as there is a Republican President Roberts will resign in shame. Some day we may know what kind of extortion was used on him.
I don’t think they “have anything on him” - I just think he wanted to be part of this historic Washington acheievement, and being an attorney instead of a business man, he was to economically ignorant to know what a disaster this was pre ordained to be.
Occams Razor….
Perhaps Roberts was worried about the image of the court if he struck the law down before it had a chance (it never had one and he should have struck it down).
But now my thinking is that the 4 who voted to toss the whole thing will vote against 0care at every opportunity, and now that we have seen what is in the bill (and a vast majority hate it), Roberts may have the courage to toss the whole thing.
It all hinges on him.
Now if the speculation of blackmail against him is true then who knows what will happen.
Occams Razor doesn't work with your theory because you have to envision a convoluted series of events whereby someone who became an acknowledged "conservative" justice, of the Supreme Court, went through life conveniently missing out on the simplest economic lessons that all conservatives understand along the way. We are to believe that he was hired into the Reagan Justice Department run by the truest of conservatives, served on the DC Circuit judge and ruled consistently as a thinking conservative and somehow along the way he missed out on an understanding of all that is wrong with socialized medicine and an overpowering Federal Government ordering its citizens to buy certain things? I have met several of these conservative beltway DOJ attorneys and circuit court judges and trust me when I say they are the sharpest of the sharp at every level. If you are going to use Occams Razor you can't decide that there is a convenient void of ignorance in the otherwise broad intellect of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to explain your theory.
I totally disagree that the majority of the legal/judiciary universe, even on the conservative side, understand economics very well. I’ve never seen this demonstrated in 30 years of business dealing with judges and lawyers of all stripes and at all levels. Sorry, NON starter argument on your part.
Second, this idea that Roberts was ever the true Reagan conservative is again, a non starter, your second.
Third, it is known that Roberts is socially maliable, and very concerned with “fitting in” inside the beltway.
Fourth, you have ZIP ZERO NADA evidence, other than your own imagination, for the conspiracy theory. Now, I’ll grant you, it’s possible - but it is still merely a fantasy from a known facts standpoint.
You just cut yourself on Occams Razor.
Everything from “Totally absurd and.....” to
“.... hard to know where to start.”
was total BS all to set up a punchline you have
been sitting on waiting to use.
“But at least you scratched your self righteous itch”
How long have you been waiting to use that one?
“None exists for this sitaution.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3075139/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2987313/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2987259/posts
I guess you didn’t hear his ruling on Obamacare and how he
twisted around it being a tax. It’s still law of the land
and does it look like a tax to you? Not to mention he is
going to rule on a law that was fraudulently passed. No,
no conspiracy at all. Talk about scratching a self righteous itch.
You obviously need to look up the
definition of conspiracy and coup d’etat while your at it.
I can’t believe you think that everything that happens is
a random act of nature.
But to your point, you seriously do not comprehend mine. I know exactly what he DID in 2012. I wrote this rather definitive piece - quoted by Levin - on it at the time,
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/justice_roberts_pleads_lie_to_me.html
and included much about it in my one time Amazon best selling book. But my point now is that HE IS HORRIFIED by that and is looking for any excuse to change it with another action.
AS for your "links" - they are all speculation by minor sources. Proves nothing. That adoption thing is a real doozy - in so many ways. Takes a lot of tin foil to tune in all of these theories...
Even more telling is their attempt to recast this a s an assault on contraception.
“But my point now is that HE IS HORRIFIED by that and is looking for any excuse to change it with another action.”
So when he pulled that contortionist twist on Obamacare
and went out of his way to explain it as a tax, was all an
unintentional mistake?
Well if that is the case he has plenty of chances to
straighten it out but if he squirms his way into a finding
that upholds forcing religious organizations to provide
overage for contraceptives, we’ll know different.
If he rules against Obamacare on this issue it may
overthrow the whole law so don’t forget the conspiracy of
the mainstream media extortion. You know, they will make him
look bad if he does. Either way only a liberal or a
compromised moderate would find anything in Obamacare
constitutional. If he’s not a liberal then he has to be
compromised or dumb.
YES, I think he now believes it to be an awful mistake, and
YES, he will have perhaps several bites at the apple to make it right, and
YES, my theory is that he WILL take advantage of those chances.
YES, if he votes with the libs on this case, he will have disproven my theory.
NO, I don’t think the severability clause necessarily applies to HHS regulations, and I think this contraception thing is in the regs, and not the law per se….so I am NOT sure this is a case that can overthrow all of it, but NO - I am not 100% sure of that.
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