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Girlfriend says Zimmerman pointed shotgun at her
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | 11/18/2013 | MIKE SCHNEIDER

Posted on 11/18/2013 6:54:23 PM PST by South40

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To: CaptainK

She wasn’t in the right trashing his stuff and throwing it outside. You can’t smash someone’s belonging just because you can. If nothing else, he’s guilty of trespassing and she’s guilty of property damage.


101 posted on 11/18/2013 9:36:47 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: FAA

They blamed some problems on the stocks on those early builds


102 posted on 11/18/2013 9:58:28 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Deputies used a key provided by Scheibe to unlock the door and they were able to push through the barricade of items, Lemma said.”

Ah. You appear to be trolling.


103 posted on 11/18/2013 10:04:24 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: bgill

It doesn’t say she “trashed” anything or damaged it. It just says she moved it outside.


104 posted on 11/18/2013 10:10:19 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: bgill

She is not pregnant.


105 posted on 11/18/2013 10:20:34 PM PST by kcvl
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To: digger48

Honey trap? That would only work if he was a stupid fool. Appears that he is.


106 posted on 11/18/2013 10:57:10 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: South40

Fame and a million dollar book deal just for doing something she usually does for drinks and a ride home.....

imo


107 posted on 11/19/2013 12:15:36 AM PST by Therapsid (t)
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To: South40

The article mentions that Zimmerman shot Martin...but does NOT mention that at the time Martin was SMASHING HIS HEAD INTO A SIDEWALK! That omission is a filthy cowardly lie.


108 posted on 11/19/2013 1:12:59 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: jimsin

Bttt your merciful and gracious post


109 posted on 11/19/2013 2:50:47 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Winstons Julia

THAT IS TRUE JULIA, AND SAD..I BET THE GUY HAD SOME ISSUES BEFORE THE SAD THING THAT HAPPENED TO HIM AND WHAT HAPPENED... MADE THINGS WORSE .....HE’LL FIND A NICE GIRL SOONER NOT LATER AND EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT AS TIME PASSES I’M THINKIN....GOD BLESS YOU AND ZIMMY TO.


110 posted on 11/19/2013 2:54:24 AM PST by jimsin
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To: Guenevere

‘Bttt your merciful and gracious post’

THANK YOU GUEN AND GOD BLESS YOU.


111 posted on 11/19/2013 3:16:57 AM PST by jimsin
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To: Winstons Julia

A cop had to see something... like maybe the broken table?


Probably. I put my fist through a wall once. Well, not through it,but it broke the wallboard. I didn’t mean to and it was in private. The wall was not very strong.

You can drop a metal object on a glass table and, if the contact point is small enough, shatter it. A broken glass table is not proof someone was being abusive. And if all they have is her word and a broken table, they have nothing.

This is not about Zimmerman for me. This is about all americans. I imagine myself in his position (ignoring the history and focusing just on this event). The only claim being made, and it is completely unverifiable, is that he pointed a gun at her. And I know how many false claims are made by soon to be ex wives and girlfriends to get money, etc. out of a man. It happened to a friend of mine. She admitted it. She also admitted her attorney put her up to it. I think my ex tried it with me when she tried really hard to get physical but I refused to go there.

Bottom line for me: If there is no evidence other than a broken table, and Zimmerman is denying that he pointed a gun at her, and there are no other witnesses, there is no there, there.


112 posted on 11/19/2013 5:19:52 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: eyedigress

What did I say that is innaccurate, jerk?


113 posted on 11/19/2013 5:42:12 AM PST by digger48
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To: eyedigress
George is an idiot. Stop getting played you moron.

Only a moron would think that my comment was defending George.

Stand up and take a bow for being an asshole

114 posted on 11/19/2013 5:46:23 AM PST by digger48
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To: Boomer One

Agree with the PTSD. a perfect case. Can’t work, limited activity, fearful, armed all the time, etc. Must be “hell”


115 posted on 11/19/2013 5:52:30 AM PST by capt B
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To: cuban leaf
Bottom line for me: If there is no evidence other than a broken table, and Zimmerman is denying that he pointed a gun at her, and there are no other witnesses, there is no there, there.

What evidence could there possibly be that he pointed a gun at her? By your logic, any time someone points a gun at someone else, in private and with no witnesses, "there is no there, there."

116 posted on 11/19/2013 6:28:54 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So then you are saying that anytime an accusation is made of pointing a gun at somebody that we should believe the accuser???


117 posted on 11/19/2013 6:31:36 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

What evidence could there possibly be that he pointed a gun at her? By your logic, any time someone points a gun at someone else, in private and with no witnesses, “there is no there, there.”


That is exactly what I am saying. It is a biblical principle. One witness is not enough, unless it is a video recording.


118 posted on 11/19/2013 6:42:38 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Uncle Chip
So then you are saying that anytime an accusation is made of pointing a gun at somebody that we should believe the accuser???

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying that automatically saying "there's no there, there" is premature.

119 posted on 11/19/2013 6:49:36 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: cuban leaf
That is exactly what I am saying. It is a biblical principle. One witness is not enough, unless it is a video recording.

So, any domestic incident, short of physical violence that leaves a mark, cannot be criminal?

Other considerations can come into play, even in a "he said, she said" scenario - things like the relative credibility of the accuser/accused's stories, history of similar conduct, etc. Not saying that stuff would resolve this case (we don't know enough to say), just that your approach would effectively de-criminalize large amounts of criminal behavior.

120 posted on 11/19/2013 6:54:24 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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