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New Mexico police shoot at van full of kids during traffic stop
FOX 8 WGHP ^ | November 18, 2013 | WEB STAFF FOX

Posted on 11/18/2013 8:36:40 AM PST by MarMema

Edited on 11/18/2013 9:11:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW MEXICO

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; leo; wearetheonlyones
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To: DManA; UriÂ’el-2012
I don't live near there but I drove through it just a couple weeks ago and it is a good road. "Winding" to a lifelong Texan maybe, but my old stomping grounds is the Oregon coast range and the Rio Grande gorge is nothing.

When we went through (just a couple days before this event) there was a speed trap being run by the staters along one of the straight stretches a few miles south of Taos, and I reckon that's where they picked her up.

101 posted on 11/18/2013 6:55:33 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
There was an abundance of state cops up there when we went through, see my post just above this one.

They come down my way and do the same sort of thing every couple months, and they fill up a motel for a few days.

They would make hay if there was a texting law here, it is seriously bad.

102 posted on 11/18/2013 7:11:07 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: Rusty0604

How do you know the cop’s life wasn’t in danger? Report said one of the “children” was 18. He or she apparently remained in the vehicle but the cop obviously saw him/her. How did the cop know there wasn’t a gun in the car? If the woman had been cooperative, none of this would have happened.

That being said, I have never heard of getting a speeding ticket and having to pay it right then or go to see a judge right then. What if you don’t have the money to pay the ticket? Do you go to jail for speeding or any other traffic infraction?


103 posted on 11/19/2013 4:15:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Many years ago, my husband was pulled over for speeding in South Carolina on our way to Darlington. The officer recited a little speech that went something like, ‘you have been charged and found guilty of speeding. Your fine is $50. You can pay the fine now or proceed to the courthouse and contest the charge but if again found guilty will have to pay court costs and pay the fine there’. We were blown away but also in a hurry. We paid the fine and hit the road with a better understanding why my parents always said be careful driving through the Carolinas and Georgia..


104 posted on 11/19/2013 4:29:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I didn’t know that being an 18 y/o passenger in a car was a threat to a cop. I also didn’t know that the mere possibility that a gun could be in a vehicle makes it OK for a cop to shoot at said vehicle that is carrying children and being driven away.


105 posted on 11/19/2013 8:44:12 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I think his entire cabinet should be impeached starting with Holder.


106 posted on 11/19/2013 8:46:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasGator

Blaming the victim as well as the perp. Nice.

Tell me, if it weren’t a government employee firing at the van full of kids, would you be making the “neither side” argument?


107 posted on 11/20/2013 10:32:51 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Would you be blaming the victims if the perp wasn’t a government employee?


108 posted on 11/20/2013 10:33:39 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

“Blaming the victim as well as the perp. Nice.

Tell me, if it weren’t a government employee firing at the van full of kids, would you be making the “neither side” argument?”

Yes, I do find fault with both sides. She was uncooperative, twice sped away from the cops and her son attacked a cop.


109 posted on 11/20/2013 10:48:00 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You didn’t answer the question, would you fault the woman for being “uncooperative” if the perp was a non-government employee?

You are still using the government employee rationale in your argument.


110 posted on 11/20/2013 11:31:37 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

“You didn’t answer the question, would you fault the woman for being “uncooperative” if the perp was a non-government employee?”

Whatever. Next time you are pulled over for speeding with your kids in the car, yell at the cop, have your son physically attack him and then speed off. Have a nice day.


111 posted on 11/20/2013 1:04:18 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

The government employee was in no danger until *he* chose to open her van door. *He* escalated the situation.

Would you blame the victim if a non-government employee opened the van door? Would you blame the victim if the son stood up for his mother and the assailant wasn’t a government employee?

Judge by actions, not occupation, the rightness or wrongness of an action.

To think you have the temerity to blame a mother for fleeing a man who has no qualms on opening fire on a van full of kids.

*shakes head*


112 posted on 11/21/2013 6:21:49 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Vigilanteman
Priorities, people. Prince Obama John needs his speeding-on-the-king's-road taxes from the peasants.
113 posted on 11/21/2013 6:24:16 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: bicyclerepair

We can’t have peasants thinking they have the right of self-preservation against government employees.

Submit or die!

(You know, that attitude seems rather familiar. Can’t place it.....)


114 posted on 11/21/2013 6:25:47 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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