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Seven States Sue EPA To Crack Down on Residential Wood Burning
CNSNews ^ | 11/15/2013 | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 11/17/2013 9:09:47 AM PST by rktman

A lawsuit filed against the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) by seven states is seeking to force the federal agency to impose stringent new regulations on residential wood-burning heaters, which they claim “can increase particle pollution to levels that cause significant health concerns.” (See EPA wood-burning lawsuit.pdf)

The lawsuit, filed last month in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia by the attorneys general of Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Vermont, is directed against currently unregulated “indoor and outdoor wood boilers,” which have become an increasingly popular way to heat homes, particularly in rural areas.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ecowackos; energy; epa; epaoutofcontrol; firewood; rogueagency; waroncoal; waronwood; woodburningstoves
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To: rktman
Can't have independent people heating their homes with a truly renewable energy source.

They'd be much better off with heavily regulated solar power provided by some crony capitalist and a subsidy from the government they can think about keeping when going to the polls.

21 posted on 11/17/2013 9:32:23 AM PST by skeeter
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To: factoryrat

Well, you gotta admit they did wonders in the Klamath Basin. NOT! Go Bucket Brigade!


22 posted on 11/17/2013 9:32:57 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
all those folks who depend on wood burning to heat their homes have plenty of extra cash just sittin' around to upgrade to more modern efficient/environmentally correct method of heating their homes.

Well, they could build themselves a gasifier, continue to burn wood and make no smoke.

You can build it to utilize many different solid fuels, the gas it produces burns as a blue flame, or can run an engine.

23 posted on 11/17/2013 9:34:31 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: hadaclueonce

Railroad ties are treated lumber, right?
Sue them for releasing toxins into the air, LOL


24 posted on 11/17/2013 9:35:54 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: rktman

When I think of a rural area, I think of homes about 100 yards apart. Some may be a mile apart.

I’m sure there’s a real danger of those people being harmed by the neighbor’s wood fire. /s

Some leaders deserve to face the people they make laws for, with their backs to a wall when those people have a stone in their hand.


25 posted on 11/17/2013 9:37:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
That reminds me to throw another old tire on the burn pile.
Every time we cleared some land back in the 60's, the only way to burn the stumps and waste was to put a couple tires under the fire. They burn real good - a little smoky, but gets the job done.
26 posted on 11/17/2013 9:37:31 AM PST by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: rktman

Better for people to freeze to death.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 9:39:02 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good thing we lost our woodburner in that bad boating accident.


28 posted on 11/17/2013 9:42:40 AM PST by MomwithHope (Let's make Mark Levin's The Liberty Amendments a reality!)
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To: rktman
No wood burning -> more forest fires.
And they of course are not particularly clean.

29 posted on 11/17/2013 9:47:16 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

I think the epa is getting ready to send all the forests a memorandum of understanding that they should cease and desist from any and all fires henceforth. That ought to do it. /s


30 posted on 11/17/2013 9:50:06 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

Those states are not known for balmy winters-they want everyone to freeze?


31 posted on 11/17/2013 9:51:34 AM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Well, with the rate of climb in temperatures they’re experiencing, they should be fairly warm within a year or two.
Thank goodness for glo-bull warming. I guess we’re fundamentally transforming the weather.


32 posted on 11/17/2013 9:54:47 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: hadaclueonce

***I was trying to buy some old railroad ties, was told they were all sold to the generators.***

Creosote in those railroad ties burn real well! Makes a fire last a long time.


33 posted on 11/17/2013 9:56:34 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: marron
The Bill of Rights at least nominally protects you from abuses by the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.

That was certainly the idea, and the Anti-Federalists almost defeated ratification of a constitution without one.

OTOH, James Madison knew bills of rights had proved to be mere parchment barriers that often went by the wayside. He determined the best way to secure republican freedom was through separation of powers. First and foremost was vertical separation, meaning a senate of the states.

34 posted on 11/17/2013 10:01:29 AM PST by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: headstamp 2

Better for EPA lickspittles freeze to death (there, I fixed it).


35 posted on 11/17/2013 10:10:35 AM PST by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: rktman
Don't be so quick to condemn this one.

These are not fireplaces or wood-burning stoves that are inside the house.

They are outdoor wood-fired boilers that make hot water which is piped to the house for heat.

They make SMOKE lots and lots of it. And it doesn't rise the way smoke usually does, the interior of the boiler is cool so the smoke is cool. The combustion is inefficient because of this. Because water is piped to the house, they can be installed far away from the house, say on the property line. The neighbors get enough smoke to make their houses unlivable, but the boiler owner gets the heat and not the smoke.

I don't know about you, but when my neighbor installs something that gives him heat and me unlivable smoke, I don't like it. He destroys much of my property value to save less that $1k per year on heating costs.

36 posted on 11/17/2013 10:23:35 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

My question is,
does the problem between two neighbors that you describe
require a federal bureaucracy to intervene?


37 posted on 11/17/2013 10:28:18 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: rktman

Actually, if you start with some money and work, a little or a lot, it makes a lot of sense to have what is called an oven-stove or tile stove. They are a heck of a lot more efficient than air convection stoves for heat, and the fuel is burned a lot more thoroughly, so produces very little smoke. Unless, of course, you *like* to chop wood.

(lots of pretty pictures of oven stoves and tile stoves.)

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/12/tile-stoves.html

http://www.rvharvey.com/kachelofen.htm


38 posted on 11/17/2013 10:29:15 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: logic101.net

I agree. BTW, the tactic is called ‘sue and settle’.


39 posted on 11/17/2013 10:37:44 AM PST by pluvmantelo (Islam-No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.)
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To: rktman
They will save enough for new wood burning furnaces when
they are forced to buy affordable health insurance.
40 posted on 11/17/2013 10:38:48 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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