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US House/Senate Republicans Should Just Vote "Present" on any Dem ACA Initiative
11/15/13 | self

Posted on 11/15/2013 9:53:21 AM PST by Be Careful

In that any 'Fix' will only hasten the ACA demise, let the Dem's 'Fixes' fall where they may with no Republican fingerprint on any of it.


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KEYWORDS: 113th; aca; bho44; keepyourplan
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1 posted on 11/15/2013 9:53:21 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

I agree. The democrat proposal to extend these policies for one year is not supportable. If allowing people to purchase these policies is the right thing to do, then why does it become wrong one year from now? Either allow them in perpetuity, or not at all.

Vote present, and tell the dems if they want out of the hole they dug for themselves, they need to vote for full repeal. All of it.


2 posted on 11/15/2013 9:56:14 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Be Careful

Agreed.

Not a single R fingerprint on this whole mess yet... don’t want any now.

Make the dems own it 100% always and forever.

Avoid getting drawn into the quagmire.


4 posted on 11/15/2013 9:57:59 AM PST by Principled
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To: Be Careful

I dont think that’s necessary. This is a popular vote which is why Dems are scared. House GOP should takes those once in a while.

Dems own Obamacare.

Personally I think this bill is very weak as it only applies to next year, Isnt there on GOP in the house with any brains that can twist the knife a bit?


5 posted on 11/15/2013 9:58:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: henkster

Vote present, and tell the dems if they want out of the hole they dug for themselves, they need to vote for full repeal. All of it.


Yes!!


6 posted on 11/15/2013 9:58:30 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Be Careful

There is no fix possible. Socialism never works. Vote no loud and clear. Kill the damn thing and drive a stake through its evil heart so it can never rise again. The death of ObamaCare is the death knell of liberalism (socialism) in America!


7 posted on 11/15/2013 9:58:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Be Careful

I agree. Mitch and Cry baby Bonehead should gather LOTS of Republicans, grab a microphone and systematically with a chart with DATES on it, go right down the line with these tidbits:
*Signed Obamacare Christmas Eve, NOT ONE VOTE from GOP
*Pelosi said pass it to find out what’s in it.
*Enzi’s bill that ALL DEMS voted against saying millions would lose their policies.
*Explain the backroom deals that the insurance co. made with the devil & Obama to cancel these “junk policies” then jump over to exchanges and make REAL big bucks.
*Demand to know what is said in today’s White Hut meeting with insurance guys.

Ok.. add other disgusting items to this list.

Bonehead, Mitch and Preibus won’t do a thing... will they?


8 posted on 11/15/2013 10:00:16 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (Would Winston Churchill stand still for all this nonsense? Cruz our new Churchill?)
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To: Be Careful

Is that a good approach for someone to take with their bosses?


9 posted on 11/15/2013 10:01:30 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Be Careful
Agree... and don't start voting until most of the Dems have already cast their vote. They need to be on record admitting that it is a terrible plan, and the terrible plan MUST be kept in place.

“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”
~Abraham Lincoln

10 posted on 11/15/2013 10:02:00 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Be Careful
This is a 100% dem operation. Make them choke on it.

The only "fix" the repubs should get involved with is REPEAL. All or nothing. Don't put this on life support.

11 posted on 11/15/2013 10:03:09 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Think of a decent outcome, and the GOP will do the exact opposite.


12 posted on 11/15/2013 10:06:17 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: henkster

I just posted this on another thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3091762/posts?page=5#5

Next year may come sooner than the Dems want.


Countdown: US Hits Debt Ceiling in 84 Days

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/15/countdown-US-Hits-Debt-Ceiling-in-84-days

Twelve weeks from today, the US government will hit its borrowing limit. When Congress lifted the debt ceiling last month, for the first time ever, it pegged the increase to a specific date, rather than a dollar amount. The current borrowing authority expires in just 84 days, on February 7th.


Should Republicans “Demand delay” or “Changes” to 0bamacare for extending the debt ceiling ?

If they do, I suspect they will get a boat load of Democrat support and may work to the Dems advantage.

Should they go one step further and call for a complete repeal of 0bamacare ?

How much democrat support would they get and would it lead to a compromise that is just another delay, which would allow dems some cover in their reelection efforts ?

This is going to get very interesting.


13 posted on 11/15/2013 10:07:46 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: Be Careful

I couldn’t agree more. There is nothing to be gained by helping the libs.


14 posted on 11/15/2013 10:07:48 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“Don’t put this on life support. “

Ahh—put the pubbie elite never miss a chance to shoot themselves in the foot. They’ll help bammy put the blame on the insurance companies.


15 posted on 11/15/2013 10:08:24 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Zeneta

Cruz effect shows up again...

interesting again!


16 posted on 11/15/2013 10:09:40 AM PST by Principled
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To: Be Careful

SC ruled ObamaCare is a tax; any bill from the senate should be sent back as unconstitutional


17 posted on 11/15/2013 10:13:12 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Be Careful

The Dems broke it, they own it. The only lifeline they should get is a 1,000 lb. cement block.


18 posted on 11/15/2013 10:14:54 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: henkster

posted this yesterday:

Voting for fix = huge mistake.

Voting against fix - huge mistake.

Right now, the Dems own it completely. Do we really want to own it with them?

So here’s the vote:

“Do you want to fix Obamacare?”

Yay or Nay?

It’s like:

“Do you want to continue beating your wife?”

Yay or Nay?

It’s a TRAP! There’s no right answer!!

THE ONLY POSSIBLE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS TO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I am not going to answer because I do not accept the premiss.

Abstain.

Vote ‘Present’


19 posted on 11/15/2013 10:33:11 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: henkster

...and another extreme analogy from yesterday’s post:

Here’s a new bill for Congress:

‘Should we stop executing innocent people with shotguns and start executing them with pistols instead?’

For the record, Mr. Congressman - and your re-election is riding on it:

Do you vote Yay or Nay?

See my point?

YAY means we should execute innocent people with shotguns.

NAY means we should execute innocent people with pistols.

The only good answer is not to answer.

Abstaining is the only acceptable way to vote on the Obamacare fix.

Must vote ‘Present’.


20 posted on 11/15/2013 10:36:03 AM PST by privatedrive
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