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1 posted on 11/14/2013 10:51:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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33 posted on 11/14/2013 11:09:52 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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"This puts the insurance companies," Laszewski writes, "who have successfully complied with the law, in a hell of a mess."

What happened to the LAW that requires 60 days notice to insured about changes in ther plan?

THE COMPANIES SHOULD SIMPLY FLAT OUT INFORM "THE CLUELESS ONE " that what he just decided, all by himself is FREAKIN' IMPOSSIBLE!

They will need at least 6 months!"

He he!

34 posted on 11/14/2013 11:10:37 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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And something else. Once a company cancels a policy, a NEW policy has to be started per federal regulation (I think). Since this is only an enforcement voluntary sort of thing insurance companies can do, what stops them from offering the old policies to new customers or anyone who wants them?


37 posted on 11/14/2013 11:12:04 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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This guy is starting to make me miss Jimmy Carter.


45 posted on 11/14/2013 11:15:43 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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If what we’ve been hearing is true, that is, that some or most of these policies wer not profitable, then how likely is the insurance company to re-offer those policies amid all the other chaos? Or if they do, at what premium price?

Business does not like uncertainty. Yet Obamacare has generated uncertainty at levels never seen before.

But then, what does Obama know about business?


46 posted on 11/14/2013 11:16:58 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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This means that the insurance companies have 32 days to reprogram their computer systems for policies, rates, and eligibility, send notices to the policyholders via US Mail, send a very complex letter that describes just what the differences are between specific policies and Obamacare compliant plans, ask the consumer for their decision — and give them a reasonable time to make that decision — and then enter those decisions back into their systems without creating massive billing, claim payment, and provider eligibility list mistakes.

So then if the insurance companies decide that this is just not worth the trouble and decide not to reinstate the insured and resurrect the canceled policies then will the Obama administration try to place the blame on them? "We said you could keep your policies if you liked them but the greedy insurance companies said 'no'."

47 posted on 11/14/2013 11:17:05 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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If there are any Democrats remaining in the Party who understand and love the principles which made America the "land of the free and the home of the brave," as is so often sung in their presence, then they will rebel against the very idea that any President has the Constitutional authority to "administratively" change a law in order to save Democrats from his and their dishonest and fraudulent promises.

Further, Obama, Clinton, Landrieu, Feinstein, Hagan and all the other so-called "progressive" regressives who propose a "fix" in order to save political "seats" simply are not being honest themselves about the real problem though:

The problem is that the "fix" just involves more coercive intrusion on the rights of individuals, on intrusion into and distortion of the insurance marketplace, on the future quality and proliferation of health care providers, and the damaging impact that their own regressive and arrogant assumptions is having on real individual American citizens and their families.

Just who do the Clintons, the Obamas, the Landrieus, the Feinsteins and all "progressives"--no matter how good they believe their intentions are--believe they are? That great intellectual freedom fighter, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and former President may have, inadvertently, identified them in the following quotation:

"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately." —Thomas Jefferson

One other thought: lest the Democrats who laid this oppressive legislation on the nation by their votes now claim that they did it to "help" us and it is just "not working" as they intended, let them consider the words of C. S. Lewis about "moral busybodies" who use the coercive power of government to "do" their good:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

48 posted on 11/14/2013 11:17:11 AM PST by loveliberty2
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The man-child he is asking for the impossible. The insurance companies need to refuse to play the game and dump this right back on the White Hut.


51 posted on 11/14/2013 11:18:49 AM PST by lodi90
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After this whole fiasco implodes, these clowns will announce that the insurance industry has failed and it’s time to go to a single payer system. Didn’t Harry Reid say that was the goal all along?


55 posted on 11/14/2013 11:25:04 AM PST by jumpingcholla34
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my concern is that institutions such as pension funds might invest in insurance companies. Obviously this announcement seriously destabilizes insurance companies. Has someone in the WH done the calculus to ensure that the Democrat voter base is unaffected by this destabilization? The potential ramifications are so large that it seems to carry into Cloward Piven...


56 posted on 11/14/2013 11:25:29 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To the people on the Left: Obamacare is a disaster from the get-go, and we should just drop the whole idea altogether. How about replacing it with allowing health insurers to sell insurance policies across state lines on a regional basis, which would actually create REAL competition to lower premium costs?
57 posted on 11/14/2013 11:25:54 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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HEY!

I thought "The Great Uniter," "The second smartest man in the world" would have everything "fixed" by the end of November!

Win The Future?

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58 posted on 11/14/2013 11:26:25 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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...and the piece de resistance...

...when all this finally sinks the insurance industry...

...the bottom will fall out of our 401k's etc...

....FMGWACS....

60 posted on 11/14/2013 11:27:29 AM PST by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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So let me get this straight. People can be grandfathered into these plans for 1 year. And others will pay 5x the same amount for the same plan. Sounds sustainable to me/s

It’s almost as if there is a second grader in the depths of the White House writing these policies.


65 posted on 11/14/2013 11:31:24 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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This debacle proves the genius of the Founding Fathers. If we obeyed the Constitution instead of twinks like John Roberts and Barry Obongo we wouldn’t be in this mess.


66 posted on 11/14/2013 11:31:55 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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And Obama stickers are quietly being removed from Prius bumpers all across the Monarchy

**just read this on another blog, hilarious


68 posted on 11/14/2013 11:33:26 AM PST by rainee (Her)
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If you are an insurance company and decide to reissue the cancelled policies, can you make these same policies available to others?


75 posted on 11/14/2013 11:39:34 AM PST by mom.mom
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It is obvious this will create an even bigger mess at this point...


77 posted on 11/14/2013 11:41:15 AM PST by Tammy8
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Yup.

It’s like cleaning up a pile of fresh dog crap by vomiting on it and then trying to wipe the whole thing up with a half-sheet paper towel soaked in cat piss.


78 posted on 11/14/2013 11:42:26 AM PST by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by a "progressive" solution.)
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How does this work? Can people buy these old plans that will only be in existance for two more years, instead of Obamacare? Does it cover the mandate if they already had the old policy, but not cover it if the insured didn't? Let's say someone was covered, lost their coverage, now get their coverage back....if they got sick in that "uncovered" gap will they be covered?

The problem now that EVERYONE realizes that Obama is an idiot is that pols in DC on both sides are still trying to play it for political advantage. Forget that, get your best minds together, and figure out how to get rid of Obamacare. Is that asking too much in this time of extreme crisis, with Obama still doing stuff to make it even worse?

84 posted on 11/14/2013 11:50:25 AM PST by grania
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