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1 posted on 11/14/2013 10:51:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I bet most of the Insurance companies won’t offer to extend cancelled plans. For those very reasons. Contracts with providers will have expired. They aren’t prepared for it.

Some of them may have contingency plans. But I bet most have already committed to a course of action and reversing at this stage is unthinkable.


2 posted on 11/14/2013 10:53:25 AM PST by DannyTN
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I bet most of the Insurance companies won’t offer to extend cancelled plans. For those very reasons. Contracts with providers will have expired. They aren’t prepared for it.

Some of them may have contingency plans. But I bet most have already committed to a course of action and reversing at this stage is unthinkable.


3 posted on 11/14/2013 10:53:25 AM PST by DannyTN
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Clusterflugge Rev. 4.67


4 posted on 11/14/2013 10:54:08 AM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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This is administratively impossible. Our company already has the 2014 bids and we were told we have to decide in the next week so that the administrators can conduct open enrollment in December.

I believe the Regime knows this and is still doing it to give Democrats political cover and blame the insurance companies when it doesn't work.

5 posted on 11/14/2013 10:55:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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Chris Wallace: “...Jerry Seib (sp?) was speculating about what the reaction was going to be from America’s insurance companies, and the answer is VERY NEGATIVE”

America’s Health Insurance Plans (the trade association for health insurance companies) put out a statement:

“Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law, ObamaCare, could destabilze the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. Premiums have already been set for next year, based on assumptions on when consumers will be transitioning to the new marketplace.

If now fewer, younger and healthier people chose to purchase coverage in the exchanges, premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers.”

The whole actuarial table is disrupted.

Questions: In the last few days, hasn’t the WH consulted with healthcare insurers about Obama’s ObamaCare fix?

NOT!!!!


6 posted on 11/14/2013 10:55:57 AM PST by thouworm (Sebelius asked to sign up for ObamaCare. Hot mic reply: Don't do this to me!)
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Three quick points:

1.) Tyrant Obama cannot legally change the Bill that he signed into Law.

Only the US Congress can legally change the Law, which then can be signed by Obama.

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2.) The MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare is the only factor that is essential to that Federal Law.

Take out the MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare, and only the Federally subsidized, or chronically unhealthy will buy it.

For example:

“What would be the incentive for increased consumer demand for policy purchase of a NON-MANDATORY Obama Socialized Health Insurance Tax instead of purchasing a policy from a private insurance company?”

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3.) Will the House RINOs think of either of the above two points? I seriously doubt it.


7 posted on 11/14/2013 10:56:08 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Obama the Destroyer fulfilling his mission.


8 posted on 11/14/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by Ray76
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For once the Washington Post got something right.


10 posted on 11/14/2013 10:57:39 AM PST by Starboard
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You can be sure that when the cancellations continue, Obama will put the blame squarely on the insurance companies. That’s what this is all about, not what is best for the people, but who has to take the blame. He is one devious monster.


12 posted on 11/14/2013 10:59:15 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Obama’s proclamation makes me so angry I could spit. By doing this with an executive order, he gets away with being able to demonize the insurance companies.

If this was done lawfully, we would have went through Congress and we would have had debate and info by bringing in insurance companies and ASKING them if this idea was even feasible at this point. Best guess, it is not!.

This needs to be stopped. Does the GOP have the balls to do it? Nope.


14 posted on 11/14/2013 10:59:24 AM PST by dforest
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Insurance carriers are being asked to program in 2 tiers of individual plans, send out policy options to subscribers and get it in by January 1.

As an IT consultant who worked on healthcare eligibility and premium billing that is impossible. It can't be coded in that time frame (6 weeks) much less tested (which would take another 6 weeks).

16 posted on 11/14/2013 11:00:27 AM PST by AU72
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Do you think the Zero WH actually consulted with the insurance companies before announcing this fiasco?

That's easy: This was a poll-driven CYA last-second hail mary cooked up by that insurance genius and all-around guru Valerie Jarrett.

18 posted on 11/14/2013 11:00:43 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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This would be a hilarious plot-line in a Mel Brooks political comedy.

Even he couldn’t play a president this stupid.


21 posted on 11/14/2013 11:03:08 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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This sad episode reminds me of the traveler who came across a talking snake at the edge of a river.

The snake asked for a ride across and the traveler, being so enthralled by the notion of a talking snake and the riches he might gain, gave him a lift. As soon as they reached the other shore, the snake gave the traveler a fatal bite. As he lay dying, the traveler asked: "why? I gave you a ride across the river." To which the snake answered: "you knew I was a snake."

The insurance industry knew Obama was a snake. They were enthralled by the notion that Obama could line their pockets with this government mandate.

22 posted on 11/14/2013 11:03:34 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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It is just a Con so Obama can blame the insurance companies for people losing their coverage


24 posted on 11/14/2013 11:04:33 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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If I was an insurance provider right now, I’d be PISSED! Would probably be throwing up my hands at it all.

HHS had three years to try to come up with a workable system and didn’t. Now the private insurance companies (CAPITALISM) will have to scramble to complete all of this in less that two months.......pathetic.


25 posted on 11/14/2013 11:05:05 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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This is the “trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube” desperation stage.


27 posted on 11/14/2013 11:05:45 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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It is time Valerie fire dumBO.


29 posted on 11/14/2013 11:06:46 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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The “fix” is to simply “allow” insurance companies to violate the law for one year. What incentive do they have to do that? What assurance is there that they won’t be penalized for violating “the law of the land”, a/k/a “settled law”?


31 posted on 11/14/2013 11:07:19 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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