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To: moonshinner_09

You have got to be careful before you use lethal force.

I don’t know all the particulars here, but I don’t want to see innocent Blacks gunned down anymore than I want to see an innocent White gunned down.

If she was just looking for help... this guy should be in a lot of trouble.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 9:08:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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6 posted on 11/13/2013 9:14:48 PM PST by publius911 (At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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i agree i don’t want innocent people of any color being shot.

that said we need more info about what went on. it is not good to change stories, which i why you don’t make a statement right after it happens.

it’s why they put cops on leave for a few days before they even write down what happened. the mind at the time of going thru such an incident may remember things out of order. they know’this. which pisses me’off b/c they know this and yet try to get people to talk immediately afterwards, and then they remember things better a few days later and it appears like their story changed. when it hasn’t they just remembered things the correct way.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 9:29:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This caper is a big ole mess.

Occam’s razor insist that we use the simplest assumptions in the absence of hard data. Here’s my attempt:

The decedent was as high as a kite at the time she contacted the homeowner. (Basis: traffic collision with a parked car at 1:30 am, then leaving the scene). Like many people under the influence, she was a bit of a pain in the ass when she knocked on this guy’s door an hour and a half later. And maybe more than a little bit scary. (Front for a home invasion robbery? etc.)

The homeowner, understandably defensive at that hour and in Detroit, Michigan of all places, goes to check out the noise. He has his finger on the trigger for whatever reason...poor discipline certainly, bad training possibly, just due to the hour and waking from a sound sleep understandably. He goes out to check out the commotion, the female does something to startle him, and he reflexively contracts the muscles in his had. Gun goes off with predictable results.

Homeowner, horrified at the dead female at his feet, calls 911 and barfs all over himself.

“Family” calls ambulance chasing lawyer, and the rest is the stories we see in the media.


36 posted on 11/13/2013 11:35:34 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree. Each case needs to be judged on its own merits.

I strongly defended—rightly so—George Zimmerman. But this isn’t George. And it isn’t that South Carolina case either....where that cop shot the kid who was rushing him....

The race baiters on both sides will use this to paint this as “just like the other ones!” to ‘prove’ their worldview.

But we have to look at the particulars of each incident.


42 posted on 11/14/2013 2:21:47 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: DoughtyOne
You have got to be careful before you use lethal force. I don’t know all the particulars here, but I don’t want to see innocent Blacks gunned down anymore than I want to see an innocent White gunned down. If she was just looking for help... this guy should be in a lot of trouble.

Totally agree - situational awareness is imperative - being armed carries a heavy responsibility. When armed (a normal condition), I am much more polite and will do anything possible to avert a reason to commit violence. I have had occasion to answer the door with my weapon at my side, but have never had cause to point/shoot. I hope to go to my grave without shooting someone and would be deeply disturbed over a "good" shoot, much more so for a "mistake".

49 posted on 11/14/2013 4:20:14 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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