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It’s a Trap! ( GOP to save Obama )
http://www.redstate.com ^ | November 13th, 2013 | By: Erick Erickson

Posted on 11/13/2013 10:32:38 AM PST by Para-Ord.45

Republicans are walking into a trap and they don’t even realize it.

They are about to consider, in the House of Representatives, legislation by Congressman Upton that would allow people to keep their insurance plans.

There’s a problem though. It is widely acknowledged that Congressman Upton’s legislation is more messaging than substance. His legislation does not have anything in it that can force insurance companies, in the topsy-turvy world of Obamacare, to keep insurance plans going.

But there is a plan than does. Senator Mary Landrieu has written legislation in the United States Senate that the Democrats love. It mandates insurance companies have to keep people on their present insurance. The GOP is supposedly against mandates and against government forcing private businesses and individuals into contracts they don’t want.

Here’s what is going to happen.

The House, with the help of a good number of Democrats, will pass the Upton plan and send it to the Senate. Harry Reid will substitute the Landrieu plan and send it back to the House. The House will be forced to either vote for the Landrieu plan or be characterized as siding with insurance companies against people.

In one fell swoop, the Democrats will have the GOP on record saving Mary Landrieu’s re-election in Louisiana by casting her as the one who saved Americans’ health care plans, and also getting on record as really being in favor of fixing Obamacare with the use of mandates.

The GOP is walking right into the trap.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; diannefeinstein; fredupton; louisiana; marylandrieu; michigan; obamacare; zerocare
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To: Para-Ord.45

“The House, with the help of a good number of Democrats, will pass the Upton plan and send it to the Senate”

That would be a big mistake. House/GOP should not pass anything associated with ‘fixing’ this mess.

You’re right - it is a trap - either way - Republicans lose.

The only way out is for all pubs to vote ‘Present’

details here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3090824/posts?page=15


41 posted on 11/13/2013 11:37:29 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: Para-Ord.45

Boehner put these worthless men in their committee chairmanships. They are his tools. Boehner needs to be reomoved so Upton can be removed. We can never make any decent chess moves with these people. And it’s intentional.


42 posted on 11/13/2013 11:44:45 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Para-Ord.45

This is entirely the Democrats. They own it 100%.

Don’t go near it. Don’t offer any help. Just stay out of their way and watch the burning dopes flail about.


43 posted on 11/13/2013 11:45:09 AM PST by Ray76
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To: GeronL

Democrat Sen. Reid gutted H.R. 3590 and replaced it with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Stupid Party (GOP) is as Stupid Party does.


44 posted on 11/13/2013 11:50:08 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: cotton1706

Boehner is a big big part of the problem. He’s a Rat mole.


45 posted on 11/13/2013 11:52:38 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Para-Ord.45

Keep up the good work, Republicrats.

When the people, like me, realize that Upton and many others, are complicit in the scheme to save this huge travesty they will be helping to bury the nation as well as the Republican Party.


46 posted on 11/13/2013 11:57:47 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Okay, it might be ‘a trap’ of sorts - but said trap will only destroy Obamacare by triggering a Death Spiral and force Obama to bail out the InsCos that are in Obamacare.

I’m not so sure Reid will switch the bill though, is he really willing to undercut Obama?

The Dem plan is great no matter as it’s the first official sign of Obama possibly being tossed over the side the boat by a currently forming Clinton Coalition. More and more Dems sign on and who knows how far down the road it goes.

Also, I would also point out that the Rep bill apparently allows InsCos to offer the plans they used to offer... to anyone! That isn’t quit a empty bill that won’t do much; it would effectively repeal Obamacares coverage mandate


47 posted on 11/13/2013 12:13:59 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: Para-Ord.45

if they do this they will own it. dems will hang all its failures on repubs. upton is either an effing idiot or secret democrat plant.


48 posted on 11/13/2013 12:16:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

One thing you can count on from the GOP. They know how to seize defeat
from the jaws of victory.


49 posted on 11/13/2013 3:52:36 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: tennmountainman
The whole mess is just that a mess but a mess by design.

I have no doubt the more the demodummies try to “fix” odumbocare, it becomes that more confusing. Sooner or later the bastardized “plan” will have become soooooooo confusing, the Repubs will give up trying to resolve the unresolvable and roll over. Its time to repeal the whole damn thing and get it over with.

50 posted on 11/13/2013 4:15:24 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

Fixing odumbocare is like trying to get a one winged bird to fly.........Tain’t gonna happen.


51 posted on 11/13/2013 4:16:35 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Secret Agent Man

52 posted on 11/13/2013 4:24:06 PM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Progov

Yep. However, the GOP will roll over SOONER than later! Just watch.


53 posted on 11/13/2013 4:42:00 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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