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Typhoon Haiyan: Desperation triggers anarchy in storm-devastated areas
World News on NBCNews.com ^ | November 13, 2013 | Eric Baculinao, F Brinley Bruton, Courney Kube

Posted on 11/13/2013 6:58:21 AM PST by Teotwawki

Desperation triggered anarchy in communities flattened by Typhoon Haiyan as survivors of one of the most violent storms ever to hit land struggled to find food, clean water and medicine Wednesday ....[snip].... ANC Television said security forces exchanged fire with armed men amid widespread looting of shops and warehouses for food, water and other supplies

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: haiyan; prepper; shtf; storm; survivalping; typhoon
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To: cripplecreek

What’s with the sarcasm?


21 posted on 11/13/2013 8:35:03 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Lazamataz
I wish I had another gun. I also need a better water supply.

At least get a Life Straw from Cabelas and other places. For about $20 you can filter the bad stuff from just about any water source including puddles. Will filter over 250 gallons.

22 posted on 11/13/2013 8:35:53 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Old Sarge

They’ve always rioted in the cities and not once have they flowed out to ravage across the land.

Your urban monster is more afraid of you than you are of him.


23 posted on 11/13/2013 8:39:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m more afraid of your normalcy bias, and so should you be.

Welcome to The List.


24 posted on 11/13/2013 8:42:28 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Old Sarge; cripplecreek
Listen to all 10 hours.
25 posted on 11/13/2013 8:57:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, do something about it and get unscrewed or where you’re at least not as screwed.


26 posted on 11/13/2013 9:03:03 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Old Sarge; AnAmericanMother; Pan_Yan; Hoodat; Vigilantcitizen

I believe it’s AAM who tells an anecdote about relatives helping control the bridge over the Chattahoochie to Atlanta after the ‘68 event in your list. WWII and Koean War vets with M1s are not to be trifled with.


27 posted on 11/13/2013 9:20:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Not relatives - just residents of a neighborhood. I didn't live there at the time - just heard about it from people who did. Some WWII vets turned out, mostly Korea and Nam alumni. I guess we'd have Gulf War vets now to replace the WWII guys who have mostly answered the last call. :-(
28 posted on 11/13/2013 9:33:04 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Marcella
Yes, that is right, I trust me more than I trust FEMA

I have said it before, but it needs to be said again and again. I'm less afraid of dying from something like this than I am about surviving.

29 posted on 11/13/2013 10:14:56 AM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I guess we'd have Gulf War vets now to replace the WWII guys who have mostly answered the last call.

My generation. And all the GWOT troops as well.

30 posted on 11/13/2013 10:28:33 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: ozarkgirl
My question is: how could they have prepared with food and water when their homes are washed away? They had plenty of notice and are in an area where severe storms are commonplace. Would burying a stash of food/water work when so much soil is washed away? Of course many were so poor, they wouldn’t have any extra money to stash food/water.

Why wouldn't they have preps when storms, according to a thread yesterday, hit the islands 3 times a year? Generation after generation after generation has known forever that another storm is always on the horizon yet it seems no one prepares for it. Fine, they're poor but they aren't so poor that they can't constantly repair their huts. It doesn't take much effort to salvage building materials from brick and cinder block building debris from buildings that are being remodeled normally or those damaged by a storm to build your family a more sturdy home. There have been reports of tvs and such being looted so it's not just food. It's Katrina all over again. If they can loot tvs, they can certainly cart home useful trash to make their families safe/safer.

Roads are still there so there wasn't that much soil washed away so there's no reason they can't bury a stash. Granted, the water level would probably mean a shallow hole but there are ways to protect it for a short period of time. They have plenty of warning of bad weather so a week out wouldn't cause buried canned goods to rust. There will be plastic sheeting and plastic buckets thrown away after all the repairs and construction post-typhoon, so that's free materials for longer term stashes.

Just like in America, just because you're poor doesn't mean you have to be stupid and sit on the couch all day like so many tend to do. Being poor doesn't mean you can't be boy scout prepared or grow a garden. Here, I had several days warning of the first freeze of the year last night so went out and picked the garden rather than leave it to rot. From what I understand, fruit trees grow wild in the Philippines so there's no reason mothers couldn't have sent the kids out to pick fruits and vegetables to wrap and bury before the storm hit.

Last I heard, there are fish in the ocean. Sure, the fish might not be biting the first couple days after a storm but by day three there should be fish and sea creatures. No, you don't need a boat to drop a line. I'm not Gilligan but I think I'd be able to patch a hole in one of those damaged boats if my kids were hungry. And, if I'm not mistaken, fish swim around in water. Surely, some neighbor or relative remembers how to desalinate ocean water. I'm not just talking about this storm of the century but every storm they've had generation after generation.

So, instead of 10,000 dead bodies on the streets in one town, there might only be a couple thousand but they'll take aid for the full 10,000. Prayers for the dead and injured. Yesterday, a woman was complaining when "you" are going to bury them. Well, la te da. How about she stop griping and help out. There have been reports of staged photo ops of the dead which there is no excuse for. Yes, it is devastating there but there are far too many exaggerations and too much bs.

31 posted on 11/13/2013 10:50:30 AM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


32 posted on 11/13/2013 10:52:48 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Old Sarge
1977 - New York - the grid goes offline at 9:30PM, the looting starts around 11PM;

Amazingly about 11 or 12 years before that when the lights went out, they had a night with some of the least crime they ever had.

Something bad changed in America between 1965 and 1977

33 posted on 11/13/2013 11:14:38 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Something bad changed in America between 1965 and 1977


34 posted on 11/13/2013 11:20:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Old Sarge

1965- far less crime than normal, people help each other
1977- widespread looting
2014- Mad Max


35 posted on 11/13/2013 11:23:16 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Old Sarge

Good list Sahge ... thanx for the synopsis


36 posted on 11/13/2013 1:21:47 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Old Sarge

Hey Old Sarge,

Long time no see. I’m going to organize a prepper meeting in early January and hope you can make it .. so keep an eye on the ol’ email. I’ve finally (after 3 years of working late into the night) got my preparedness book completed and would be delighted to provide you a complimentary signed copy in recognition of the good you’re doing.

-TD


37 posted on 11/13/2013 6:07:25 PM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: The Duke

You’re far too kind, and I accept!

We’ll be watching the mails for the word...


38 posted on 11/13/2013 6:44:02 PM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: mlizzy

Glad to hear it. Thanks for the info.


39 posted on 11/13/2013 6:48:10 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: Old Sarge

My pleasure entirely sure. You can see a preview that includes the table of contents at ‘nofema.com’. :)


40 posted on 11/13/2013 7:01:03 PM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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