Posted on 11/08/2013 11:51:18 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Edited on 11/08/2013 11:53:11 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
The Mormon church stands to own nearly 2 percent of Florida by completing a deal to buy most of the real estate of the St. Joe Co. for more than a half-billion dollars.
The megapurchase was announced jointly Thursday by a corporate representative of church, which owns the nearly 295,000-acre Deseret Ranches in Central Florida, and by the real-estate and timber business, which has built several communities along the Panhandle coast.
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the waters of Ripliancum,
We’re talking serious poppycock here. No one said JS wasn’t an extremely gifted storyteller. But, descriptions of epic battles are the stuff of dime novels.
I barely made it through college so I have always assumed that most people are smarter than me. So, why do so many otherwise intelligent & accomplished people follow the teachings of this charlatan? I’m not smart enough to speculate as to why this is so. Please assist.
Some are BIC - Born In the Covenant - so they start getting brainwashed at a VERY early age.
The others who make a decision to join?
I have no clue.
We have all sorts that show up in these threads.
Perhaps we'll get a good discussion going from all involved; from BOTH sides of the aisle.
Seems like those TBMs who are BIC still have to be protected from corrupting influences such as the internet.
No wonder the intermountain Mormon corridor calls itself “Zion”. Control is easier when LDS is the majority.
A man I know (and his brothher) own teh ranch to the south fo Deseret Ranch. He suggested I talk over an education idea with the manager of Deseret, Paul Genoe (probable spelling error) and a meeting was set.
At that meeting, Paul mentioned that they had 315,000 acres and paid taxes on all of. Seems his church felt the payment of taxes was an obligation and thus they didn’t get exempt status.
It is a well run ranch. Wwould it be more productive under more diversified private ownership? Who knows - but as long as they bought that land and pay taxes on it, IMHO they should be credited with running a productive ranch, not an easy task, especially with volunteers. Most Western ranchers have hired raqnch hands called cowboys for a reason.
PS I am not Mormon.
It's DECEPTION.
It can occur on many levels.
HE needn't 'feel' - they ARE!
This is a BUSINESS being run by a church.
...IMHO they should be credited with running a productive ranch, not an easy task, especially with volunteers.
The Mormons 'manage' to run a LOT of businesses 'productively'.
But; I wonder how 'productive' they'd be if they had the added cost of WAGES to pay their 'volunteer cowboys'?
IF their ‘volunteer cowboys’ get hurt on the ‘job’; I wonder what the legal ramifications are?
It's the same obsessed actors again, the same old arguments, the same vitriol and disrespect. It makes a laughing-stock of FR and causes unease and discomfort for those who appreciate, respect and wish to maintain this board's reputation.
The intolerant stirring-up against the Mormans goes on and on with no end in sight. I have known and worked with Mormans in my adult career and I have found them to be decent, honorable, honest, hardworking, patriotic Americans. But yet we find constant attacks and calumny directed at them and their faith in countless lengthy threads.
Am I a voice crying in the wilderness here?
Leni
What did the “anti-Mormans” say that was a lie?
Leni, I have had, and still have the same experience as you with Mormons.
“I see...
There’s an awful lot of Muzzies down there in Florida, which I find worrisome.”
Yes, Muzzies lop your head off, Mormons don’t.
No. The "fundamentalist" Bible-thumping zealots on this board are (yes, I mean to use this word), legion. While claiming to be for "the Constitution", they never-the-less want to deny each INDIVIDUAL the freedom to hold his/her own personal religious beliefs without disrespectful harassment. If given the power to do it, many of these intolerant factions would not hesitate to impose their brand of religion, BY FORCE of law if necessary, on everyone else. Indeed,in this, they are merely the so-called "Christian" flip-side of the Islamic fundamentalists.
C. S. Lewis: "If we must have a tyrant a robber barron is far better than an inquisitor. The baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity at some point may be sated; and since he dimly knows he is doing wrong he may possibly repent. But the inquisitor who mistakes his own cruelty and lust of power and fear for the voice of Heaven will torment us infinitely more because he torments us with the approval of his own conscience and his better impulses appear to him as temptations. And since Theocracy is the worst, the nearer any government approaches to Theocracy the worse it will be. A metaphysic held by the rulers with the force of a religion, is a bad sign. It forbids them, like the inquisitor, to admit any grain of truth or good in their opponents, it abrogates the ordinary rules of morality, and it gives a seemingly high, super-personal sanction to all the very ordinary human passions by which, like other men, the rulers will frequently be actuated. In a word, it forbids wholesome doubt. A political programme can never in reality be more than probably right. We never know all the facts about the present and we can only guess the future. To attach to a party programme--whose highest claim is to reasonable prudence--the sort of assent which we should reserve for demonstrable theorems, is a kind of intoxication (75-76). ~ C.S. Lewis (Lewis addresses theocracy (the most potent form of Religious involvement in government) in an essay entitled, "A Reply to Professor Haldane" On Sotries. ed. Walter Hooper. Harcort & Brace Co. Orlando, Florida. 1996.)
bttt
FYI..see #350...and just skim the comments on this recent thread
good morning....the best advice I can give you is to just ignore them..like you would an obscene phone caller...jutst hang up...
Nah. It’s just a small number of Bible thumper nutjobs. It’s too bad FreeRepublic doesn’t have a clown filter or a block function for these maroons...nothing they post is worth spit.
I have had no quarrel with you as far as I can remember, but your words have stirred up something in me that I cannot ignore. Since you are taking an anonymous swipe at folks like me because of your generalizations, I am compelled to respond.
I would venture that posts like yours do much the same thing towards Christians who challenge the doctrine and teachings of mormonism, regardless of how nice they are.
I will grant that there are some who may be quite snarky or sarcastic, but at the same time, would you believe that mormons have accused FReepers of being responsible for murder? I seriously doubt any of you would...but it is true.
You and folks like you do much to poison the efforts of sincere Christians who have accepted the challenge from mormon leaders themselves to scrutinize and challenge mormon doctrine.
As an ex-mormon, married to a devout mormon, I KNOW first hand how nice they can be...I interact with many on a first name basis in many situations and venues.
But that is not the point and I believe many of you know it. You just lack the moral fortitude to engage the doctrinal problems inherent in mormonism and instead, use those who would as some kind of personal pinata.
What did the “anti-Mormans” say that was a lie?
At least learn to spell “Mormon”, and have a Merry Smithmas!
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