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Machinists union leader: Boeing offer ‘a piece of crap’ (Everett, WA)
Seattle Times ^ | November 7, 2013 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 11/08/2013 10:19:14 AM PST by jazusamo

Machinists are expressing anger at the terms offered by Boeing to win the 777X work for Everett. Boeing said in a statement that the company is ready to "pursue other options" outside Washington.

In a dramatic end to a meeting with hundreds of disgruntled Machinists at the Seattle union headquarters Thursday night, District 751 President Tom Wroblewski tore up a copy of Boeing’s contract proposal and said he would try to have it withdrawn.

“I know this is a piece of crap,” Wroblewski said about the proposed new eight-year agreement that Boeing says will determine whether the forthcoming 777X jet is built in Everett.

“I will go to see if this can be withdrawn and not even put to a vote,” he said.

The local union leader spoke from the podium as the intense and raucous meeting came to an end and people filed out. He told members he’ll check whether the union’s bylaws allow the proposal to be pulled so there is no vote next Wednesday.

Boeing did not comment on the meeting except to say in a statement:

“All of our options are still on the table, including those within Boeing and interest we have received from outside. We chose to engage in Puget Sound first, but without full acceptance by the union and Legislature, we will be left with no choice but to open up the process competitively and pursue other options for locating the 777X work.”

Wroblewski was responding to a wave of strong negative feeling in the meeting in South Park, where members of the Local A unit of District 751 heard details of the proposed contract and voiced their opinions.

Some arrived for the meeting carrying large homemade “Vote No” signs, and the opinion of the majority came through loud and clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 777x; boeing; iam; unions
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To: jazusamo

Boeing built their B-29’s in Wichita, and many other aircraft in the years since. It’s a much better place to build big airplanes and the business and labor climate with Governor Brownback is decidedly more favorable.

Let the unions do to Seattle what they did to Detroit.


21 posted on 11/08/2013 10:34:48 AM PST by centurion316
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To: ComputerGuy

Hope so.


22 posted on 11/08/2013 10:36:13 AM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: jazusamo

Unions are no good.


23 posted on 11/08/2013 10:37:43 AM PST by rupez
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To: jazusamo
Possibly...Some union guys think Boeing is bluffing..

Sure, just like Hostess was.

24 posted on 11/08/2013 10:37:57 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: AdaGray
Maybe he could re-apply for his old position in South Carolina. But I wouldn't count on it.

In a previous life, I was personally acquainted with one of the Toyota executives who was in charge of one of their early projects to locate a transplant factory in Tennessee.

The U.A.W. hammered them not only for rejecting unionization, but for trash canning thousands of applications from unemployed U.A.W. people. The Toyota exec told me the company took great pains not to contaminate the transplant with the U.A.W. and was not about to inflict a new project with that virus. It was much easier to hire young southern men with zero experience and train them from the ground up than deal with the union mentality of experienced workers from up north.

25 posted on 11/08/2013 10:38:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jazusamo

They should pull out of Seattle and Chicago and leave the greedy unions to wonder what just happened. I really don’t know why businesses tolerate such shake downs that unions seem to do with great frequency.


26 posted on 11/08/2013 10:38:20 AM PST by soycd
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To: Gamecock; All

I don’t think Boeing can afford to stay in Seattle, in more ways than one.


27 posted on 11/08/2013 10:38:43 AM PST by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: Parmy

They are being offered something or nothing, and they are choosing nothing. “Full pay ‘till the last day” was the union motto at Eastern Airlines.


28 posted on 11/08/2013 10:39:10 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: centurion316

My guess is he would not be sounding so cocky unless he believed that his buddy Obama had some way to force Boeing to build in Seattle.


29 posted on 11/08/2013 10:39:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jazusamo
Some union guys think Boeing is bluffing, I wouldn’t bet my job on it if I was them.

Just like they were bluffing about moving their HQ from Washington to IL.

30 posted on 11/08/2013 10:40:00 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They have tried to stop Boeing from moving operations before haven’t they?


31 posted on 11/08/2013 10:40:09 AM PST by GeronL
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To: JPG
Sure, just like Hostess was.

Exactly...

32 posted on 11/08/2013 10:40:15 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Vigilanteman

Honda in Ohio was the same way.
They wouldn’t even talk to you if you were a salary person in a UAW plant.
Smart guys, they’ve been very successful.

BMW hired Honda studs when they set up their S. Carolina plant.


33 posted on 11/08/2013 10:41:01 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: jazusamo

*Cough*Tennessee*Cough*


34 posted on 11/08/2013 10:45:42 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: jazusamo

Boeing is looking seriously at their facility here in Long Beach. C-17 line will be closing down at about the time they start the 777X work. Different union down here so that issue could be worked around. Never know.....


35 posted on 11/08/2013 10:51:56 AM PST by Shark24
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To: MasterGunner01
"If Boeing were to move its aircraft manufacture out of WA, the Seattle area would go into a coma."

Seattle is no longer a one-company town - we have Microsoft, Amazon, and a number of other major players. Still Boeing leaving would have a big impact.
36 posted on 11/08/2013 10:57:20 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: jazusamo

Typical union thug language.


37 posted on 11/08/2013 10:58:44 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: GeronL
They have tried to stop Boeing from moving operations before haven’t they?

Correct. Charleston, SC.

5.56mm

38 posted on 11/08/2013 11:00:06 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: nascarnation
BMW hired Honda studs when they set up their S. Carolina plant.

Bubba Makes Wheels? I was shop foreman of a Toyota dealer in the early 1990's when the Kentucky Camry plant opened. Much to the chagrin of the Japanese, the warranty rate on Kentucky Camry's was 2% lower than Japanese made Camry's. Bubba makes good wheels.

39 posted on 11/08/2013 11:01:19 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Alex Murphy

“There’s always unemployement, if you don’t like hard work.”

They don’t work hard. Trust me. Due to union rules many of them get to sit around all day and still get paid.


40 posted on 11/08/2013 11:02:45 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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