Posted on 11/06/2013 11:56:10 PM PST by Bobalu
Amid torrent of revelations that the NSA finds mass surveillance easy, the IETF ponders how to harden the Internet.
Will the usually obscure Internet Engineering Task Force – that open-to-anyone group of engineers who design and keep the ‘net functioning – step up and fight back against mass surveillance? That possibility is now in the air, following a talk in Vancouver today by cryptographer Bruce Schneier (see “Bruce Schneier: NSA Spying is Making us Less Safe”). He laid partial responsibility of the National Security Agency’s mass surveillance on the IETF’s doorstep.
“Fundamentally, surveillance is a business model of the Internet. The NSA didn’t wake up and say: ‘Let’s just spy on everybody, it said: ‘Wow, corporations are spying on everybody, let’s get ourselves a copy,’ ” he said, referring to the cloud computing providers and others who warehouse data. The NSA found the Internet quite easy to tap in various places; as a result, “The NSA has turned the Internet into a giant surveillance platform” that is robust both politically, legally, and technologically, he added.
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I'm not against snooping on an individual as long as the constitutional requirements are rigorously met. But blank-check warrants from a secret court to snoop on everyone are just evil.
What good will it do when the Fascist-Marxists at Google, Yahoo and Facebook will gladly allow backdoor entry to their comrades in the NSA?
Send one time burn keys that do not allow stateful inspection.
Interesting
Yes, I was thinking something along the same lines.
Along with huge amounts of noise over the top of the signal.
Only a suggestion...but if everyone started to send out their emails with a 100-slide PowerPoint presentation of “nothing” but a massively large file....the end user would delete...but the NSA freaks would have to triple their data storage capability within days. And if we kept up this ‘added-weight’ concept...they’d probably have to keep tripling their data storage capability every week or two. We’d keep up the act when they got smart, by continually changing the name to the file.
It’s kinda like putting sixteen thousand pounds of dirt on a truck and observing it’s slow to react any situation.
meanwhile bitcoins climb over $300....
“Mass surveillance”
I question the term as applied to the NSA and the internet.
It is with out much doubt that the NSA can and maybe even is accessing all the internet data. Having done that, it is a giant leap to the assumption that all that information is viewed and understood.
To surveil means to focus, to specifically look at a discrete target. Those within the attention zone have something to fear if the communications are secret and actions a threat.
All those in the blurred perimeter that is out of focus are ignored. That is to say, unless you are involved in a national security issue, the field is blurred and there is not really a privacy problem. You just don’t matter. They don’t give a damn about you.
I understand the concept and the fear that big brother is watching. Big brother has the ability, but not the need nor the desire. Mostly he doesn’t give a damn about 99.999% of what he can look at.
The government is now our jailer. Best behave right.
I'm reaching the point where I am. A better answer might be to stop doing globalist stuff that makes people hate us. Another better answer might be keeping people who don't belong here and aren't needed here out of the US. Then, stabilize and make productive again the US population.
The spying is dealing with the effects, not the causes. That never works out real well in the long run....in anything.
I choose to ignore the possibility.
They have bigger fish to fry
(I’ll be posting about it if the come)
So you're basically sticking your head in the sand. That's nice.
The problem with your position is that for it to remain relevant you must never raise your head above the crowd. For example, you must never become a "Joe the plumber" by questioning authority.
There could very well come a time where being a Freeper means you are considered and enemy of the state. If that (or a billion other scenarios) comes to be, you just might seem like a bigger fish to someone. Wake up my friend, wake up.
No, I have no such fears. Given the opportunity I would express my self as well as I can. I do it here daily within the set parameters of the forum
The government (it was about England, but it's just as bad over here, if not worse) is so far up our asses we are basically living at their discretion at this point.
They have the ability, in an instant, to know anything about you that they feel like knowing. They don't need a warrant or a cause, they can ring up your info for a grudge or curiosity or revenge.
And conversely, they can eff up your world with the flip of a switch. They can kangaroo audit you, they can destroy your credit rating, they can make it impossible for you to travel, they can get you fired, they can take away your right to drive, to own a gun, to see your children, to see your doctor, or screw you over in a thousand ways.
And they are doing these things to people, without due process and without consequences for them at all.
Anonymous little functionaries in basement rooms have us all by the short hairs, and few people think its a problem.
That’s funny.
Like de-mil’ing their hard drives with useless crap.
I pressed the FR like button...
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