Posted on 11/06/2013 1:35:02 PM PST by IbJensen
If Israel and the Palestinians do not agree on a two state solution by the end of this year, the Obama administration plans to propose its own solution and force it on the two sides in early 2014.
For Obama, the goal is to have this agreement in place in time to influence the November 2014 mid-term elections. Unfortunately for Israel, the Palestinians have absolutely no incentive to move off of their current demands because Obama has been promising them a Palestinian state based on the pre-1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the capital since very early in his presidency. So the Palestinians have no motivation to negotiate in good faith since they already know that they are going to get what they want in the end anyway. Ultimately, Obama plans to force Israel to give up the West Bank, East Jerusalem and control over the Temple Mount in exchange for a promise of peace that is not even worth the paper that it will be printed on.
When it comes to Israel, the arrogance that Obama is displaying is absolutely appalling. For example, Obama made the following statement about Israel earlier this year
Israel doesnt know what its own best interests are.
Oh, but Obama does?
Not only does Obama believe that he knows what is best for Israel, he also plans to force them to do it.
According to IDF Radio, the U.S. government plans to submit its own solution and force the two sides to agree to it if negotiations do not produce an agreement by the end of this year
The United States intends to try and force a peace agreement on Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), IDF Radio reported Monday.
The radio station says the US has informed Israel and the Palestinian Authority that if negotiations between them do not advance, Washington will propose its own solution, that will include a US position on every point that is in contention. In effect, according to the report, this will be an attempt to force the sides to agree on a solution formulated by the US.
It is important to note that IDF radio is actually run by the Israeli military. This would not have been broadcast if the Israeli government had not approved the story.
And the source for the story is actually the head of the left-wing Meretz party
MK Zehava Galon (Meretz) was quoted as saying Monday that senior US officials told her the US offer would be presented in January of 2014. PA sources also cited January as the month in which the US intends to propose, or impose, its plan.
The US moves comes after three months of talks between the sides which have reportedly made very little headway.
The US plan reportedly is similar to the Clinton outline, offered by President Bill Clinton in late 2000, which is based on an Israeli retreat to 1949 Armistice lines, and some swaps of territory.
This report by IDF radio was also echoed by a report in the Jerusalem Post
The head of the left-wing Meretz party, Zahava Gal-On, said Monday that the Obama administration is determined to achieve a major diplomatic breakthrough next year in the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, including arrangements for a final status agreement.
There will be a new diplomatic program, based on the pre-1967 lines with agreed land swaps, Gal-On said in a statement after meeting with Palestinian and American officials on Monday morning.
So why should the Palestinians negotiate?
All they have to do is wait until early next year and they are going to get what they want anyway.
Of course U.S. officials are issuing their typical denials. According to Reuters, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says that the U.S. does not plan to implement this kind of a plan at this point in time
At a news conference in Riyadh on Monday, Kerry said there was no such plan at this point in time. He has spoken publicly of possible U.S. bridging proposals if no major progress is made.
But of course Kerrys statement does not rule out that such a plan will be implemented early next year. And at this point it seems very clear that the current negotiations are going nowhere fast. The following is also from the Reuters report mentioned above
Israeli and Palestinian officials said on Tuesday the three-month-old peace talks pressed on them by Washington are going nowhere, painting a grim picture for a visit this week by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
For a long time, the Palestinians have been relying on the fact that the U.S. government has promised them that they will get a state based on pre-1967 borders. In fact, according to a Yahoo news article posted in July, a letter from Kerry guaranteeing this was what got the Palestinians back to the negotiating table in the first place
Israels pre-1967 borders will be the basis of renewed peace talks between Palestine and Israel, according to a letter U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gave to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas which guaranteed the stipulation.
After Abbas received the Kerry letter, he agreed to resume peace talks with Israel, two senior Palestinian officials said Saturday.
And the biggest stumbling block in the negotiations is the status of Jerusalem. The Palestinians are absolutely determined not to agree to any solution that does not give them control over East Jerusalem. Unfortunately, the Israelis are not nearly as united in their determination not to give it up. In fact, according to the Times of Israel, there is a tremendous amount of discord inside the Israeli negotiating team over what to do about Jerusalem
Israels negotiating team in peace talks with the Palestinians is reportedly facing an internal disagreement on the issue of Jerusalem, with chief negotiator MK Tzipi Livni demonstrating a more flexible approach than that of lawyer Yitzhak Molcho, the special envoy appointed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
In the end, Obama plans to give control over East Jerusalem and the Temple Mount to the Palestinians. The following is from a WND article from earlier this year
The Obama administration has quietly presented a plan in which the Palestinian Authority and Jordan will receive sovereignty over the Temple Mount while Israel will retain the land below the Western Wall, according to a senior PA negotiator speaking to WND.
And this is not something that Obama came up with recently. The truth is that Obama has been planning this since early on in his presidency. The following is from a WND article all the way back in 2009
President Obama and his administration told Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a meeting last week the U.S. foresees the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital, according to a top PA official speaking to WND.
The American administration was very friendly to the position of the PA, said Nimer Hamad, Abbas senior political adviser.
Abu Mazen (Abbas) heard from Obama and his administration in a very categorical way that a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital is in the American national and security interest, Hamad said.
What Obama is trying to do is crystal clear, and Israel should immediately walk away from the negotiating table.
Ultimately, nothing good is going to come out of these negotiations anyway. Any peace guarantee that Israel receives will only be temporary.
Palestinian Authority Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash made that abundantly clear during a recent sermon
At the Friday Ramadan services, which were attended by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and broadcast on Palestinian television, Habbash explained to Muslim worshipers that Palestinian Authority officials only through the wisdom of the leadership, conscious action, consideration, and walking the right path are headed toward achievement, exactly like the Prophet [Mohammad] did in the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, even though some opposed it.
Palestinian Media Watch an Israeli research institution that translates anti-Israel broadcasts in the Palestinian media explains that the Hudaybiyyah peace treaty of 628 A.D. refers to a 10-year truce that Mohammad, Islams Prophet, made with the Quraish Tribe of Mecca. However, two years into the truce, Mohammad attacked and conquered Mecca.
Are you starting to get the picture?
The Palestinians dont plan to establish a real, lasting peace with Israel. In fact, according to one survey two-thirds of all Palestinians believe that the eventual goal of the Palestinians must be to get back all the land for a Palestinian state.
There is not going to be any solution to the Jerusalem issue any time soon even if a peace agreement is forced on Israel and the Palestinians. And this is precisely what the Bible said would happen in the last days. In Zechariah 12:3, we are warned that the city of Jerusalem will one day become a huge stumbling stone for the nations
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Is that not exactly what has happened?
The entire world is trying to figure out what to do with Jerusalem. It truly is a burdensome stone.
And the U.S. government should be very careful. That passage of Scripture also says that all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces.
If the United States ends up forcing Israel to divide her land, will the U.S. also find itself divided and cut in pieces?
That is a very sobering question.
And it is also interesting to note that all of this is happening just as we are entering the blood red moon tetrad of 2014-2015.
Other blood red moon tetrads throughout history have signaled times of great distress for the Jewish people.
Will it be the same this time around?
Obama has some very energetic minions trouble makers working for him while he is out shooting hoops and playing golf. Ones like Samantha Powers and John Kerry will do what they can to screw Israel same as has been going on all along under Obama. We have already sabotaged a few Israeli operations
Saudi Arabia and Israel will have much larger problems once Iran gets nuclear weapons. According to Debka a few Israeli ops there have been sabotaged by the Obama administration
But Obama is mentally ill as a result of living a homosexual lifestyle and using drugs during his misspent youth.
Here we have a scenario for the death of America and Israel: a mental case in charge who has filled EVERY central socialist government post with zombies who are as insane as he is.
Instead of buying billions of rounds of ammunition in order to quell domestic rioting an order should have been placed for several hundred strait-jackets in order to restrain Obama and his minions. He....and they are certifiably insane.
There’s absolutely no doubt that the cretin in the White Hut is Israel’s enemy #1. He’s also America’s enemy #1.
America faces no greater threat than this mentally ill, smarmy sociopath.
And they’re not making presidents like Washington and Reagan either.
Chump bait Hitlery's ass!
I think in the security of Obama’s White Hut his hand-selected staffers stuff their bloody faces with the brains of slain critics. They are mentally deranged and should be treated as such.
Bring in the strait-jackets and the transportation to padded rooms.
Liberals are not only nuts, but are deluded, mentally deficient, dyed-in-the-wool Lenin-Stalin Communists.
Their retarded mental capability drives them to achieve absolute government power while at the same time they’re destroying the machine and the people that make a nation operate efficiently.
Stalin, who is hero to many in the American ‘Progressive’ movement (Democrats and Republicrats) deliberately murdered millions of Ukrainians while the complicit Roosevelt administration heaped nothing but accolades on Uncle Joe. Being in a crazed leftist state of mind they deliberately ignored any certified information about the deliberate genocide that was occurring in that warped nation.
Today’s nut cases want the same thing to happen here. They, being insane brain-eating zombies, will NEVER get it but will only make things WORSE!
This mentally ill evil being is an enemy of God and of all American people if only they’d wake up and see this candidate for a strait jacket for what he is: a destroyer.
The pictures hanging on Obama’s White Hut walls (remember, it’s not the people’s executive mansion....it’s his!)should be of Lenin and Stalin....they are the ones on which he is modeling his actions.
He is an unfit to occupy the disgraced White Hut as Pol Pot.
The mental case will be finished when Americans wake up. Many world leaders have already.
Western Europe has thrown their socialist experiments in reverse, realizing that the idiocy inspired by Lenin and Stalin doesn’t work at all. Meanwhile, the insane zombie in the White Hut is going full speed ahead in the opposite direction.
Stop him before he kills us!
American jews, by and large, aren’t Jewish....they couldn’t be. Why it would be like voting for Hitler knowing full well what it mean for their short futures.
Can Chuckie and Debbie Washerwoman Schultz really be that mentally deficient? Can the majority of America jews be so misguided that they continue to support a mentally ill cretin who hates them?
Sadly the answer is yes.
But Barry Cupcake will break his toy as he doesn’t understand the intricate machinery that makes it work. In fact, Barry doesn’t understand anything because he is certifiably insane.
Here’s a creep that did drugs in high school, occasionally dressed in girl’s clothes, had several boy friends and accomplished nothing of value while in the education system.
Now this sick puppy is ensconced in his White Hut studying his Marx and Lenin and is filled with wild desires to emulate them.
And, don’t forget, Obama is amuck.
The same convoluted way he has shoved an evil health care system down our throats.
That system was there for him to appropriate. Through his insane machinations he will force his way on the Israelites.
Can anyone here, besides me, remember when ‘health care’ was never a topic for discussion?
Thank the unions and the central socialist government and any RINOs you meet along your discovery route.
I don’t understand it. is there a fatal flaw in their makeup that they cant see what happened to them from Kristallnacht in 1938 through May 8th 1945???
Why volunteer to go into the cattle car??
Here’s another question:
When almost a thousand Jews escaped from Germany on the last ship out, the St.Louis, and they arrived on the east coast, the Jews of NY voted not to let them into the US.
They were then sent back to Hitler.
The New York Times was part of that cover-up too... One of their suck-ups even won a Pulitzer for it...
Right. Durante a real tool of Stalin.
At the time our government was crawling with newly minted communist bastards, but Roosevelt (who probably knew it) just looked the other way. Truman was a different matter. Truman knew full well that his administration was larded with commies, but he vehemently denied it.
Do you really think the US is going to send troops to Israel or the occupied territories to "force" a solution on the two sides?
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