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AMERICAN BLACKOUT- A Real Life Nightmare Nearer Than You Think
Family Security Matters ^ | by R. JAMES WOOLSEY, DR. PETER VINCENT PRY

Posted on 11/05/2013 2:49:26 PM PST by Carbonsteel

Four days before Halloween, on Sunday morning, October 27, 2013, terrorists in Mexico's Michoacan state blacked out the electric grid, leaving some 420,000 powerless and thirteen dead. That same Sunday night, National Geographic aired the docudrama American Blackout. This fictionalized account of a cyber attack on the electric grid depicts some of the horrific consequences of a nationwide blackout lasting 10 days.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: emp; mexicoblackout; peterpry; petervincentpry; prepping; pry; terrorattack
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To: DuncanWaring

Oops...little correction here. Also see arc fault protection, GFCIs, etc.


101 posted on 11/06/2013 2:23:11 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Ground Fault Interrupter, “whatever”.

Are they really applicable to this situation?


102 posted on 11/06/2013 2:34:58 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: USCG SimTech

For years, the tv cable company swore we had bad service due to near daily solar flares, suuure. Once, it was out for over a month. If it takes that long to fix the cable, it’ll be decades to get the electricity back on.


103 posted on 11/06/2013 2:36:04 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: DuncanWaring

With the hypothetical, strong EMP strike or rare, strong solar ejection reaching our atmosphere, there may be both ground considerations and shielding considerations. For example, to simplify: electrical components with microcircuits stored in a steel trash can with a tight lid fitted on the can with copper wool tightly under the sealing surfaces. The can’s grounded and has an insulating layer inside—perhaps components wrapped in plastic, perhaps more layers of alternating metal and plastic. Would it be enough? I don’t know, but it should have a pretty good chance if stored in a building. Connectors in active equipment can also be wrapped with grounded copper wool.

Arc-fault protection would be better, although GFCIs might be of some little help in preventing secondary problems caused by other failing equipment. Granted, most appliances now have some protection in them (even some water well pumps).


104 posted on 11/06/2013 2:46:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: cripplecreek

While I might not turn my back on certain bulls, kittens are more scary than cows. That crowd tends to be afraid of waterways so that might be a concideration.


105 posted on 11/06/2013 3:09:12 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

Snakes are a major fear factor among the urban crowd and there are a lot of snakes in the Michigan swamps.


106 posted on 11/06/2013 3:38:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kartographer

Ok, it’s time for me to seek info, advice, from those that have BTDT. My situation. Very rural area of east central Ohio. Not that that makes any difference. I have my own well water. A whole house generator powered by my own NG. First issue is a Faraday cage. Do any of you have any experience with one, as in making one. Suggestions, hints, no no’s, etc. The same with a water filter. I only want one that works with a 5 gallon bucket or two. I have read so many yeas and nayes that I am not going to read anymore about them. All the makers want to sell me that ss thing that sits on the drain board. Don’t want that. Just want something that will work with water from the never ending stream going thru my property.
All comments appreciated.


107 posted on 11/06/2013 4:09:27 PM PST by Rannug
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To: Rannug

East Central Ohio. Near Southington?


108 posted on 11/06/2013 4:59:53 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Rannug

For a Faraday cage, based on my limited knowledge, you’ll want either a grounded metal garbage can with a tight lid, or an enclosure surrounded with the stuff they sell here:

http://www.twpinc.com/wire-mesh/TWPCAT_11

That’s what they used at a place where I used to work for testing electronics that needed to be devoid of ambient RF.

My own plan for water is to get a length of the fattest PVC pipe I can find, put a 90-degree elbow on each end with a riser that goes up a foot or so, put a spigot on one end, fill it with sand, and pour water from the local lakes into the other end. I’m expecting clear water to come out the spigot.

Disinfect with some chlorine compound for culinary purposes, and run through a better filter for drinking.


109 posted on 11/06/2013 5:07:58 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Betis70

bttt


110 posted on 11/06/2013 7:04:18 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Rannug
As for the water I assume the "ss thing that sits on the drain board" you reffer to is a Berky and so I am not sure what type of solution you are seeking. Most bucket type systems are pretty much the same, but in my estimation the basic Berky set-up it is the least complicated and best 'base camp' set-up. If you don't like the Stainless Steel Berkey container or donot wish the expense of one you can do as I did and build your own using food grade buckets and Berky filters like this: http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/homemadeberkeydaire.htm There are other products that are less expensive, but when you comapare gallon for gallon and the wide range of contaminates both chemical and biological that a Berky removes they are hard to beat.
111 posted on 11/07/2013 4:55:24 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: familyop

>>Mostly people who get their incomes from government or contractors (bureaucrats, Java developers

Java developers? LOL, wow. As a Java developer working for a private company with not a single government client, I am glad I am being lumped in with ‘government cheese’ workers.

C++ guy? I love a good tech flamewar, ribbing. Posted all in good fun.

Good post BTW.


112 posted on 11/07/2013 6:16:10 AM PST by Betis70
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the info. Your suggested link shows exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this so valuable thread. Lots of good info.
By the way, ss = stainless steel. Lazy fingers. And I do remember the pitcher pump on the drain board at home when I was growing up. I also remember the wood fired kitchen cook stove, and the outhouse at the far end of the sidewalk. All points of progress are not beneficial. Folks did not need all the government “they need” today. Friends, family, and neighbors, were much more important then. Folks were more self sufficient. More comfortable with life and living. Enough rambling. Again, thank you for the good advice and thread.


113 posted on 11/07/2013 7:57:11 AM PST by Rannug
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To: DuncanWaring

No way could I use a garbage can for my primary generator. A dumpster maybe. :-) I checked your link and will pursue it further today. May well be what I need. Thank you.
Southington, Ohio is a couple counties north of me. Actually I had never heard of it before.


114 posted on 11/07/2013 8:07:04 AM PST by Rannug
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To: cripplecreek
Reminds me of the tale of Blackwater Hattie.
115 posted on 11/07/2013 8:31:01 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Betis70
"I am glad I am being lumped in with ‘government cheese’ workers."

Naw. My poor sentence didn't distinguish well enough. Bad English on my part there. ;-)

"C++ guy?"

You had me pegged. Heh. I'm not doing it now because of the need to do some building on my own place for a few years (in the middle of nowhere, including energy and agricultural stuff). Well, because of the market, too.


116 posted on 11/07/2013 12:58:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Betis70

I did finally watch “American Blackout” after having ignored so many other shows like it. The show was very strange to me.

So many of the characters in the movie had life-threatening situations. That’s entertainment, I guess.

There were many tactical errors in the flick, yes. Even the character, Mr. SHTF Expert, with his “compound,” was guilty and made some glaring mistakes.

Long ago, in a better country, I lived through Hurricane Celia. It pretty much flattened the City. The immigrant population was over 50% at the time. There were no power or phones for weeks. We didn’t see any lack of civility or generosity from anyone and did interact much with neighbors. The National Guard did not attack the population but did hand out huge amounts of dry ice, water, food, etc.

We cleaned the City up within a year and celebrated that. We respected our elders, soldiers and what was known as common sense. Most of the men were technically inclined. Most of the wives were respectful and respected.

The producers of the movie and many viewers obviously want to see a time, when the norm becomes “every man for himself.” We’re almost there already, thanks to my generation (Baby Boomers) taking over. If so many people want a nationwide disaster and want to riot afterwards, maybe someday, they’ll get what they’re demanding and trying to arrange.

I’m saying that we’ve dumped real, old fashioned morality within a couple of generations. It’s been known for thousands of years, that there are consequences to nations for such behavior.


117 posted on 11/07/2013 1:25:17 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Yosemitest

Coincidence that this National Geographic program comes out so close to the government planned blackout ‘drill’? My advice lately has been to simply stay away from so-called government ‘drills’....people keep getting murdered. A blackout can’t be avoided, but rest assured, should an ‘attack’ happen, my first inclination, unless PROVEN OTHERWISE, will be that OUR OWN GOVERNMENT is complicit.

What I learned from Benghazi....OUR GOVERNMENT WILL MURDER IT’S OWN IN ORDER TO FURTHER IT’S AGENDA, WHATEVER THAT AGENDA MAY BE.

Yes, my tinfoil hat is now permanently affixed. Knowledge is power. Question everything.


118 posted on 11/07/2013 10:57:48 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG
always have, ever since Hue

119 posted on 11/07/2013 11:06:03 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Kimberly GG
You sound like a person that has worked for the government, and KNOWS its treachery.

I agree with you, but I would NOT be surprised if the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF ORDERS an 'ACCIDENTAL' real power spike and then outage"
in order to have an excuse to wipe out all documents that Congress is demanding on all his scandals.
120 posted on 11/07/2013 11:22:22 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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