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Weekly Investment & Finance Thread (Nov. 4 - Nov. 8 edition)
Freeper Investors ^ | Nov. 4, 2013 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 11/04/2013 1:42:41 AM PST by expat_panama

This is the Weekly Investment & Finance Thread (Nov. 4 - Nov. 8 edition)---- 
Trying to focus on the markets for today and each day and the economic news

 

This is where you can exchange some investment opinions and advice; if you see another FR economic thread you like and want to link to it here, please post your favorite economic site links. Your favorite economic blogs and precious metals blogs and sites.

Ping list -- on or off let me know here or via freep-mail. If I missed you then Freep-mail me
I might ping you to other interesting economic threads a few times a week. One per day maybe

Sites that posters have recommended ------ 

Somebody that no longer posts pointed Aliska to freestockcharts.com. The candles help.

LiveFreeOrDie2001 says he learned A LOT on this free site: http://ciovaccocapital.com/wordpress/

Mutual funds:
Top-Performing Mutual Funds by Category-Kiplinger
Best Mutual Funds | US News Best Funds
Most Popular Funds (you can look at their Holdings).
this one?

Oil and Gas Industry
http://fuelfix.com/
http://www.theoildrum.com/
http://www.petroleumnews.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/homeauto.html

Treasury Basics..
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/BC/SBCPrice

All things forex from different sources. Lots of forums for traders
http://www.forexfactory.com/

Dividends...
http://dividendsvalue.com/
http://www.dividends4life.com/
http://www.dividendyieldhunter.com/
http://www.dividendstocksonline.com/
http://www.dividenddetective.com/
http://dividendstocks4income.com/
http://www.dividendgrowthinvestor.com/Drip-ing”...
http://dripinvesting.org/tools/tools.asp
hot stuff here Rush Limbaugh quotes them sometimes:
http://www.zerohedge.com 

CPA’s....
http://www.aicpa.org

Gold, Out of the Box Thinking etc...
http://www.davejanda.com/
https://www.everbank.com/
http://dailypfennig.com/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/

Websites underbyte likes

http://www.itulip.com  Site owner is an economist and predicted our current financial problems back in 1999

http://www.itulip.com/kapoomtheory.htm  Metals focused site with analysis

 http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/  Another metals analysis site for alternative viewpoints   http://www.gold-eagle.com/authors/mark-j-lundeen

Precious Metals
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com
http://www.Apmex.com

The Markets....
http://seekingalpha.com/
http://www.dailystocks.com/
http://www.gainerstoday.com/
http://www.gainerstoday.com/
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/
http://247wallst.com/
http://www.decisionmoose.com/
http://www.market-ticker.org/



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: financial; investing; stockmarket; wallstreet
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1 posted on 11/04/2013 1:42:41 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

--and a glorious new week to all!!  This morning all futures markets are up with stocks one of the highest.  Headlines:

Stocks Quiet, But History Says Final Two Months Are Often Bullish11/01/2013 07:05 PM ET - Stocks kicked off November with small gains in fading volume. The Nasdaq inched up 0.1% Friday, while the S&P 500 added 0.3%. The IBD 50 advanced 0.4%. Volume fell across the board.
Analysis: Rewards shift to stock pickers in US market rally
Euro Reaches 6-Week Low Before ECB Meets This Week; Aussie Rises  
European Stocks Rise as Dufry, PostNL Advance; Ryanair Plunges  

When I plotted the fed graph of S&P 500 w/ corp profits it made so much sense to me that I had to share it. That was at first. The more I look at it the less sense it makes.  Comments/help welcome.

2 posted on 11/04/2013 1:58:04 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
They're starting to fall, not unusual for this time of day. But it could be one of those kind of days. Investors uneasy. I'm watching a couple.

The freestockcharts doesn't seem to have the correct current price for RNF. It's at about 19.62 and fsc seems stuck at 20.09.

3 posted on 11/04/2013 8:05:56 AM PST by Aliska
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To: expat_panama
Have any of you guys bought gold through APMEX?

I see you have them listed above, so I assume so. Any feedback would be very appreciated. Was thinking of getting 3 or so of the 10 oz Pamp Suisse Gold Bar .9999 Fine (In Assay).

4 posted on 11/04/2013 10:48:05 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

long ago this daily thread was primarily for precious metals traders but as the markets shifted the regulars now are largely into stocks. You might get better info from dennisw, the guy that started the thread.


5 posted on 11/04/2013 4:48:51 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: Aliska

according to IBD the numbers on RNF aren’t too gooe, let me know if you can use this link: http://research.investors.com/stock-checkup/nyse-rentech-nitrogen-ptnr-lp-rnf.aspx —if not I’ll give u a screen shot.

whew, busy day. my stock picking screens are radically different because I haven’t been pleased with returns on what I was doing. bot a couple today (NUS & RGR) and so far so good...


6 posted on 11/04/2013 4:55:12 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
No, I can't remember all of it but the East Dubuque plant has to close down for awhile to catch up with something. It was the price of natural gas; now I didn't see that.

I'm waiting for another drop into 17's. Could be wrong. Last week I read the target price was 22.

Looks like you found some good ones. Nu Skin, had to check that out, it climbed nicely. Thought you had Ruger there but it's Renaissance something, climbed gently and steadily then tapered off near closing.

Don't bother with a chart. I had one up all day, had a feeling it was going to nosedive again. It did. It was selling at 32 maybe higher just a few weeks ago and had a terrific dividend which I never timed so I got it.

Guess you're buy and hold and not your energy or precious metals. You sound confident. I like that.

7 posted on 11/04/2013 5:43:49 PM PST by Aliska
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

Going from yesterday's "Gain In Choppy Trade" we now got most future's markets down this morning, stocks included.  What's up:

European Stocks Drop From Five-Year High as RSA, BMW Fall
European stocks fell from a five-year high as the European Union cut its growth outlook and Bayerische Motoren Werke AG retreated after reporting results.
Texas Rising: More Jobs, More Business, More Housing
U.S. Mutual Funds Up 3.39% in Oct.; Pullback Overdue
Editorial: New Snowden Victim: U.S.-EU Trade Pact

8 posted on 11/05/2013 3:16:12 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Aliska
...buy and hold and not your energy or precious metals. You sound confident...

For all the work I put into this the surprise is that my best investment is the S&P emulator fund I bought in 2009.  OK, lucky timing, but my favorite time frame is to buy and hold for a month or so --I hear they call that "swing trading".  Seems in that frame there's so much more info coming in about general markets and individual companies.  One would think.  Reality is that lots of people do quite well in other time frames in other markets so the key (imho) is constant learning and watching what others (like yourself) are doing.

It really seems to me that our general situation is one of profound transition. 

9 posted on 11/05/2013 3:37:26 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

We got our up beat stock futures going again, after yesterday's "turned in a resilient performance Tuesday as major averages ended well off session lows, but the S&P 500 logged its third distribution day" ( http://www.investors.com/#ixzz2jrZQFhZM).

Other headlines:

Euro Rallies on Prospects ECB to Hold; Yen Drops  
Analysis: Financial markets question value of ECB rate cut  
UK Production Rises More Than Forecast on Factory Rebound
Bloomberg - 2 hours ago U.K. industrial production rose more than economists forecast in September, helped by a rebound in manufacturing after a slump the previous month.
Gentler debt-collection rules in the works
Philly.com - 3 hours ago Help is coming for consumers who complain about mistaken or abusive debt collectors, as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau prepares to overhaul the nation's collection standards for the first time in a generation.

10 posted on 11/06/2013 3:17:45 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

At present, the S&P is up about 1/3 of a percent, but the Russell 2000 is down about 1/2 of one percent.

Only one day but can we conclude anything from this? Confidence the other day was quite dismal - consumers only buy at R2K companies?

I am long IWM.


11 posted on 11/06/2013 12:39:33 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
can we conclude anything from this?

huh, I missed that one.  Seems that over the past few years the R2K out performs the S&P in general but falls harder on the downside.  Maybe I'd better watch it to see if this is typical over the next few weeks...


12 posted on 11/06/2013 1:26:04 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

News headlines say it all--

Stock futures trade lower ahead of Twitter debut USA TODAY - 3 hours ago U.S. stock futures traded with modest losses as investors prepared to welcome Twitter to the New York Stock Exchange
Stocks: Dow hits new closing high, Nasdaq slips
USA TODAY - 4:15am   NEW YORK -- The U.S. stock market continued its record-setting pace, with the Dow Jones industrial average setting a new high at the close.

--though a bit hard to believe imho...


13 posted on 11/07/2013 3:47:00 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Wow, real honest to goodness selling today. The market is actually struggling to rise. How refreshing.


14 posted on 11/07/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: expat_panama
TWTR trading 78,000,000. Analyst said may be overpriced at 30. Trading at 45.85. I'll pass. What a frenzy and I got on late.

Just hit 46.19

15 posted on 11/07/2013 9:08:31 AM PST by Aliska
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To: expat_panama

What the heck happened today. Good news is bad news and bad news is good news. The GDP was better than expected so big sell off.


16 posted on 11/07/2013 1:24:13 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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The line from IBD is "Strong GDP data stoked fears the Fed might taper soon."

fwiw, that 'strong' gdp represents an average gdp growth of 0.1% over the past six years. I'd hate to hear what they call "weak".

17 posted on 11/07/2013 6:13:48 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: Aliska

Had to dump my NUS but took a profit on my RGR.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 6:15:00 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I wish they would start “tapering” to get this craziness out of our system.


19 posted on 11/07/2013 6:26:28 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: expat_panama
Good for you. I coulda made some on TWTR but it coulda gone the other way. I hope to get back in on something but I'm feeling uneasy about all the gloomy prognostications by Faber, Celente, Schiff, Weidener (sp?). It's their schtick but the market is running on vapors imo.

Sorry you had to eat NUS, hope it was small loss or break even. We will see if this pullback continues.

A lot of it is timing. NUS sucked for you this time but it could be where you wanted it to go up ahead. Or take a big short on it if you know how if it tanks.

My days are getting broken up by having to go out so it's hard to get into something if I can't watch it since there's nothing long that interests me.

20 posted on 11/07/2013 7:20:09 PM PST by Aliska
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