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Debunked Christian Historian David Barton To Run For U.S. Senate? (their headline....)
Opposing Views ^ | October 30 2013 | Michael Allen

Posted on 10/31/2013 7:51:45 AM PDT by ConservativeDude

Two Tea Party groups recently declared war on Republicans who voted to end the government shutdown.

The Tea Party Nation and the Tea Party Leadership Fund want to run Tea Party-approved candidates against sitting Republicans as punishment for being "traitors."

One Tea Party favorite, debunked Christian historian David Barton, is rumored to possibly run against Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), notes Warren Throckmorton at Patheos.org.

A "Draft David Barton for US Senate" Facebook page has been set up and currently boasts 1,445 members.

One pro-Barton advocate claims on his blog that "last week a meeting occurred between Tea Party leaders and a representative for Barton. Sources report both sides left the meeting encouraged. Right now, speculation Barton might run is 'legitimate.'"

Not mentioned by any of his supporters is how Barton's most recent "historical" book Jefferson Lies was pulled by its Christian publisher Thomas Nelson in 2012 for historical inaccuracies, noted NPR.

In addition to his dubious book, Barton has tried to justify the genocide of Native Americans, claimed that atheism, evolution and Darwinism are "religions" and rewritten the words of Jesus Christ to oppose the U.S. tax system.

Sources: Patheos.org, NPR, Facebook, Acahnman.Blogspot.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: christianheritage; christians; davidbarton; defeatcornyn; historians; tx2014
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To: El Laton Caliente

Me too but I’m just a warped ex muddlogger myself.


61 posted on 10/31/2013 12:21:32 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: ConservativeDude
I have the greatest respect for David Barton. As one post said, we could use a thousand like him.

The left, in their anti-Christ spirit, ignore, oppose, and disregard the blatant and obvious Christianity of the founders of this nation. Barton exposes the truth and they attack him accordingly.

I'm impressed with the obvious references to Christian faith in the Jefferson memorial. For me, that is evidence enough:

PANEL 1: We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...

PANEL 2: Almighty God hath created the mind free. All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens...are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion

PANEL 3:God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.

In Panel 1, the word "Creator" hearkens back to Genesis 1 and God's ultimate authority. In Panel 2, Jefferson clearly identifies with the Christian faith and also emphasizes that it was commonly embraced, using the words "OUR religion". In Panel 3, Jefferson recognized Christian doctrine, calling God "just" and acknowledging that "his justice cannot sleep forever."

The fact that 3 out of 4 panels refer to Christian faith implies that at a minimum Jefferson acknowledged, accepted, and endorsed Christianity.

62 posted on 10/31/2013 1:26:15 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

The fact that 3 out of 4 panels refer to Christian faith implies that at a minimum Jefferson acknowledged, accepted, and endorsed Christianity.”

That is a great point.

And I think that it is precisely what Barton was doing with his book. Showing that about 3/4s of Jefferson is friendly to Christianity....and thus showing that the current model of Jefferson as sort of a proto Richard Dawkins, is in fact, a bold faced lie.


63 posted on 10/31/2013 2:07:16 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: celmak

http://www.worldmag.com/topic/barton_controversy/

Here is WORLD magazines full treatment of David Barton and his controversial history. You will see they give him space to defend himself.


64 posted on 10/31/2013 3:50:28 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Madam Theophilus

Thanks for posting that link.

As usual, the Debunkers need serious debunking.


65 posted on 10/31/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Madam Theophilus

I do sincerely apologize for my poor memory concerning the historians and David Barton.

This is actually what I was trying to remember-

http://hnn.us/article/147149

History News Network Votes Barton’s Jefferson book as the least credible history book; close second is Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States.


66 posted on 10/31/2013 4:09:07 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: celmak

http://hnn.us/article/147149

I do sincerely apologize for a poor memory. I wrote in haste, but this is what I was actually thinking of when I posted.

History News Network votes Jefferson Lies as least credible history book; second runner up is Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States.


67 posted on 10/31/2013 4:11:04 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: SubMareener

Do you consider Cruz as ‘kookie?’


68 posted on 10/31/2013 4:14:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ConservativeDude

Barton would be an unbelievably good choice.

Probably too good to ever happen.


69 posted on 10/31/2013 4:16:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Of course not! I consider both David Barton and Ted Cruz to be Patriots!


70 posted on 10/31/2013 5:34:55 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ConservativeDude; Viennacon; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

Politics1.com lists FIVE GOP challengers to Cornhole already in the race.

http://www.politics1.com/tx.htm

All are unknown regular folks

Dwayne Stovall is a rambling moron, Immigration attorney Linda Vega sounds like an open borders RINO to Cornhole’s left from the limited info I’ve found on her.

But the other 3 sound ok and I’d give one of them the nod over this guy who would have zero chance in a runoff with Cornhole.

However with this crop of unknowns I’m not optimistic that Cornhole can be held below 50%, we need a heavy hitter to have a realistic chance at taking him out.


71 posted on 10/31/2013 5:59:10 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: GeronL

It’s not Joe Barton that’s considering running, it’s some other guy named Barton.


72 posted on 10/31/2013 6:03:26 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: ansel12

Post and ask him, he answers.


73 posted on 10/31/2013 6:11:39 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: El Laton Caliente

You are the one promoting him.

Please link us to his positions on the gay agenda.


74 posted on 10/31/2013 6:15:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Impy

lol.


75 posted on 10/31/2013 6:21:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Impy; ConservativeDude; Viennacon; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

I don’t know if former Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams would be interested in another Senate run after his aborted run in 2011 (he switched to a House race after Dewhurst and Cruz were sucking all the oxygen out of the Senate race, and then switched to a second House race and ended up losing), but he’d make a great Senator, and certainly could run to Cornyn’s right in the primary and send him to a runoff like Cruz did to Dewhurst.


76 posted on 10/31/2013 7:01:41 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what ma kes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: ConservativeDude

Is this the guy who somebody gave an honorary degree and he wants to be introduced as “doctor?” Lol


77 posted on 10/31/2013 7:15:15 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: backwoods-engineer; SubMareener

Saying Barton is as kooky as Ted Cruz is a favorable comment about both Barton and Cruz.


78 posted on 10/31/2013 7:31:09 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Madam Theophilus
"History News Network votes Jefferson Lies as least credible history book; second runner up is Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States."

The History News Network that is part of the History channel? Now there's a real history source (sarc)! And who do they source? None other than Throckmorton and Coulter, along with another couple of most likely Christian haters that believe in Separation of Church and State.

And Zinn is not second runner up.

79 posted on 10/31/2013 10:01:04 PM PDT by celmak
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To: Madam Theophilus
"You will see they give him space to defend himself."

And I see he did well in defending himself; but I also see it’s the same leftists “Christian” Warren Throckmorton, and his partner Michael Coulter that attack him relentlessly. Both have been known as “Christian” and/or “Conservative” by Leftists, but evidence shows otherwise. They even state that they want to critique “Barton and religious conservatives in general”. Throckmorton has attacked the “Religious Right” on the grounds that they are wrong on the Separation of Church and State (SOCS). As far as I know, Coulter’s view on SOCS is ambiguous; but then why would he partner who is vehemently supportive of SOCS? In a lecture Coulter infers he agrees with SOCS in stating the importance to law SOCS is. The link below has Coulter’s lecture on Windows Media Player and he states the importance of SOCS at around the 35 minute mark.

http://www2.gcc.edu/media/events/2008/Church&StateConf08.htm

But let’s say they did not have an agenda; what they argue most in their criticism of Barton is the way he interprets the data – the first person writings of Jefferson. If this is the case, then it is a matter of reading the original documents ourselves and making up our own minds about the writing. And this is what Barton does best – he brings out the original writings! This is what drives the rest of the Left crazy too! We are not to interpret these documents ourselves in their eyes.

And there is another outstanding feature about Throckmorton and Coulter’s articles - THEY LACK CITATIONS! Anybody reading their article can note this - including you!

Now you have brought out evidence that attacks Barton, I have a question for you; do you have anything that supports Barton, or are you just out to get him as well?

80 posted on 10/31/2013 10:01:09 PM PDT by celmak
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