Posted on 10/29/2013 11:44:52 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
....."The Left is champing at the bit to go single payer, even before Obama Care has begun. The employer mandate has been delayed and thousands of exemptions have been granted. Of the major provisions, only the individual mandate and fines remain, and even they may be delayed. But the liberals say: Lets change the venue and the rules before the game even starts."....
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These leftists actually believe the voters will trust them with single payer after epically failing with obamacare and wasting billions???!!!
“Anyone that is a libturd at this point IS a complete idiot. Dont be fooled by idiots.”
There are three types;
“Leftist” who know it is total revolution/destruction of our system that they seek. I believe Obama falls under this category. The total ideologue.
“Liberal” which would include those who like the soft squishy European style of socialism that appeals to the lazy and disillusioned. Truth and facts are inconvenient, but ignorable.
“Useful idiot” as Lenin called them, which have been coined “low information voter”. Sound bites, catchy phrases, and political gotcha moments, along with peer pressure are very effective with this group. They really have no idea.
We have our work cut out for us in dealing with this.
Your answer is yes. Single payer allows for healthcare rationing. Aimed directly at aging Baby Boomers and the physically handicapped of all ages to decrease the surplus population
And who will pay for so-called single payer? Not the half of the nation already on the dole.
The Rats are signing up millions into Medicaid never to taken away.
Medicaid is just Medicare for people under 65.
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Medicaid is a 100% paid, no premium, no deductible, no co-pay covers medical, dental, eye care govt paid plan.
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Medicare is a monthly premium, annual deductible, 20% co-pay, no dental or eye care for an aging population that spends more on failing eyes and teeth than youngsters. Plus Medicare enrollees when working paid Medicare withholding taxes.
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There is no comparison between the 2 other than they are govt administrated. Medicare is hardly a freebie.
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Our state Medicaid plan does not permit you to own more than about 2000 in assets, which is a large deductible, will take your house, has two and five dollar copays.
This is the Medicaid plan that Hussian is wanting people to fall into, the one that takes assets.
The Demonrats have an unlimited supply of ignorance and greed working for them. That advantage is nigh-impossible to overcome.
Touché!
ABSOLUTELY. The problem is that it is failing so fast they can’t blame the private health care sector. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING THE HIT. The government cannot manage one-sixth of the American economy. The government can’t be the solution if government is perceived as the problem. The RATS broke it—they own it.
ONLY RINOS CAN SCREW THIS UP!!!!!
State secession will kill the single payer.
All it takes is just one state.
Absolutely. All according to the plan.
There are three types:
Leftist who know it is total revolution/destruction of our system that they seek. I believe Obama falls under this category. The total ideologue.
Liberal which would include those who like the soft squishy European style of socialism that appeals to the lazy and disillusioned. Truth and facts are inconvenient, but ignorable.
Useful idiot as Lenin called them, which have been coined low information voter. Sound bites, catchy phrases, and political gotcha moments, along with peer pressure are very effective with this group. They really have no idea.
IF Medicaid replaced ALL insurance, then all the current health insurance company employees will become FedGov employees. Assuming it will take the same amount of people to administer the services this will even add to the pool of Democrats...
They may have set up Obamacare for the illegals who would benefit from the single payer system down the road.
“DON’T BE FOOLED ... OBAMACARE WAS DESIGNED TO FAIL. SINGLE PAYER IS WHAT THEY WANTED ALL ALONG.”
If the remaining supporters and admirers of the Founders don’t act NOW, then there is nothing which can be done and nobody who can save this country.
Our media today is no different than the old Pravda for the USSR. They are carrying the Progressive message all while ignoring that the CPUSA and DSA have not even hidden the fact they are using the Progressive label to cover up their Marxist/Communist beliefs.
We also have decades of youth brainwashed by our government schools who are not questioning the central planners and the liberal mafia in the MSM.
My point was simply that Medicaid is a back door to Single Payer, and Medicare is always used by the Left as a shining example of how Single Payer would work. I seem to recall some Rat saying that Medicare should be expanded to include all ages when the Healthcare “debate” was raging.
I wasn’t talking about Medicare being a gimme since it is funded by Medicare Taxes.
Anyone remember when John Edwards got caught using a scheme to avoid paying his “fair share” of Medicare Taxes?
Yep. Considering all those communist types from the 60s/70s are grown up now with grown kids and grandkids of their own along with the influx of illegals, we’ve been outnumbered.
I do not, for the life of me, however - see how they can view single-payer as a viable option. It just *sounds* good to them, that’s all I can figure.
I would like to think any immigrants (legal or not) would have come to this country to leave the hell-hole govt control they were used to. Out of the pan and into the fire, I suppose.
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