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Interesting idea...

Something to study...

This is going after everyone, not just the democrats...

Now, don’t get me wrong there are a TON of republicans that need to be replaced...And telling them these neat littel details about the Constitution, is all well and good, very few will gove more than lip service to your efforts...

The only thing we really have is to keep everyone engaged and ready to strike in November of 2014...Nothing done until those polls open/close that day will matter...

I’m not throwing rocks at the organization, some of these people (leaders) I have heard of,and know their works...They will have NO allies in D.C. when they really turn up the heat...Not that that really matters...

So what really is their endgame???

What will really be a product of their efforts that November 2014 cannot produce, IF WE KEEP THE CONSERVATIVE VOTING PUBLIC ENGAGED!!!

I do not see that as anywhere near a practical focus, or implied jeopardy to what is sitting in those kush offices right now...They do not feel threatened at all, their longevity is secure, as long as they keep the politically atuned voters in the dark as long as possible...

Just my initial opinion, and it doesn’t mean I will not get involved...I just involve myself in things I know will put pressure on where it needs to be applied...If we have enough people doing that...There is nothing that cannot be accomplished...

Just my opinion...

Right on the short term. However, they are corrupted faster than we can vote them out. The system itself is corrupt and the Constitution MUST be restored or the US is toast—no matter how many RINOS we primary. So, the long term fight must be undertaken NOW— and won. Term limits is tops on my list—but repeal of the 17th Amendment, Balanced Budget, states rights, and the other LIBERTY AMENDMENTS all have to be addressed.

Voting for conservatives is necessary but insufficient. As per Woodrow Wilson's dream, the vast majority of government is out of the hands of our elected reps and senators. One hundred years of experience under popularly elected senators has proved the inadequacy of elections. When it comes to conservatives’ focus on national elections, I'm reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity. As in banana republics, elections here are becoming the Left's tool to legitimize tyranny. "Obama won, get over it."

Obama is consolidating all powers. He makes laws, executes laws and increasingly can adjudicate law through administrative courts or his corrupt DOJ. In 2012, every administrative agency was, or potentially was, of service to his campaign. It is way past the time to return un-enumerated powers to where they belong, to the states.

Levin's amendments are superb. They would make the government much more federal than our framers’ design.

Until the national/state division power is once again secured by a senate of the states, there is no hope.

They will have NO allies in D.C. when they really turn up the heat...

Senator Mike Lee on Levin's show last week said a return to federalism is our only hope. I don't put it beyond the possibility that a few Tea Party senators on the floor of the senate might call for repeal of the 17th.

The national media could not ignore it. Wouldn't it be great for the good guys to control the debate?

The only thing I have at this time is why does anyone think anyone in elected office is going to listen, much less alter their approach to the political operations (shinanigans) being perpetrated by both sides (political parties) in D.C. today???

I think the important point you are missing is that this procedure COMPLETELY bypasses the political elite running the District. The States are the ones that will amend the US Constitution - not the elected buffoons destroying our liberty from DC. ONE of the amendments must impose term limits for Congress and another should return election of Senators to the state legislators.

The only thing I have at this time is why does anyone think anyone in elected office is going to listen, much less alter their approach to the political operations (shinanigans) being perpetrated by both sides (political parties) in D.C. today??? IIRC, the U.S. Congression role is to administer, and record the proceedings of the convention of state delegates...they have no say so on any amendements brought forth. Oh, they can bitch and moan about it, and they will, but they can do nothing. FReepers, correct me if I'm wrong...no opinions, just facts.

A constitutional convention is a long term attempt to reign in the federal government and in some ways state government. I just signed up for emails to see what this group is up too, but after quickly reviewing the website it appears to me the general focus presently are Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments. These are an excellent start but do not go far enough to guarantee our freedoms. In this process however there is no pre packaged end game available. States, through their delegates at the convention can propose amendments as they see fit. If passed by the convention the amendment(s) is/are sent to the states for ratification. I think the Liberty Amendments should be bolstered in some areas. For example to control the tyranny of the Supreme Court we should amend the constitution to eliminate judicial review in toto. To reign in the power of congress and the states to enslave us via taxation we must eliminate their power to write tax law. This means elimination of all forms of state and federal taxation except a retail sales tax fixed at 10-15% by the constitution. Guess they will have to be more prosperity oriented if the gubmint wants more money. Another item needed is the complete elimination of transfer payments. No more vote buying with the treasury. Adding these changes to Marks Liberty Amendments would fix the problem of monstrous federal and state governments. As to another one of your questions, if we are successful I believe the federal and state governments will refuse to follow the new constitution. Call me jaded. Still have to try though. The CC is a long term action which does not mean we loose focus on elections. I suspect this process will help focus the electorate upon what is happening to their freedom and why local, state, and federal elections are an important responsibility that is not to be taken lightly. Anyway my Sunday morning two cents.

The equation is really quite simple really.

The reason Washington doesn’t listen to us is they have a vested power interest in the spending and growth of their government.

Frankly everything we conservatives have been asking them to do has been to tie down their hands with the chains of the Constitution and cut down on the amount of money they can spend buying votes. That quite obviously runs against the grain of politics which makes Our political efforts 3 times harder than the left’s.

By targeting our States instead with specific demands which have the potental of increasing their power and influence(Be it at the cost of Washington). Our arguments become far more effective. We have only to find clever ways to uses their power to cut down Washington’s. (Something that uses to be a lot easier prior to the 17th amendment).