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To: stevie_d_64
A constitutional convention is a long term attempt to reign in the federal government and in some ways state government. I just signed up for emails to see what this group is up too, but after quickly reviewing the website it appears to me the general focus presently are Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments. These are an excellent start but do not go far enough to guarantee our freedoms. In this process however there is no pre packaged end game available. States, through their delegates at the convention can propose amendments as they see fit. If passed by the convention the amendment(s) is/are sent to the states for ratification. I think the Liberty Amendments should be bolstered in some areas. For example to control the tyranny of the Supreme Court we should amend the constitution to eliminate judicial review in toto. To reign in the power of congress and the states to enslave us via taxation we must eliminate their power to write tax law. This means elimination of all forms of state and federal taxation except a retail sales tax fixed at 10-15% by the constitution. Guess they will have to be more prosperity oriented if the gubmint wants more money. Another item needed is the complete elimination of transfer payments. No more vote buying with the treasury. Adding these changes to Marks Liberty Amendments would fix the problem of monstrous federal and state governments. As to another one of your questions, if we are successful I believe the federal and state governments will refuse to follow the new constitution. Call me jaded. Still have to try though. The CC is a long term action which does not mean we loose focus on elections. I suspect this process will help focus the electorate upon what is happening to their freedom and why local, state, and federal elections are an important responsibility that is not to be taken lightly. Anyway my Sunday morning two cents.
32 posted on 10/27/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

Thats what concerns me...

Levin certainly understands the risk of conviening a Constitutional Convention could bring to the process...I believe we are seeing the end of Levin’s patience on the nonsense of DC...And thats not necessarily a bad thing...Lots of people are there already...He is in good company, and I say to him, “Welcome to the party”...

So even though my confidence in the elected caste of nincompoops is very low...Leaving an option for the states to load up a convention of this importance, at this time is extremely dangerous...

Like you, I will be monitoring the progress with extreme scrutiny...


36 posted on 10/27/2013 11:23:20 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Nuc 1.1
I believe the federal and state governments will refuse to follow the new constitution.

Mark's suggested amendments are structural. They cannot be ignored. Check 'em out.

40 posted on 10/27/2013 11:44:42 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Nuc 1.1
For example to control the tyranny of the Supreme Court we should amend the constitution to eliminate judicial review in toto. To reign in the power of congress and the states to enslave us via taxation we must eliminate their power to write tax law.

Day 1: Your proposed amendments are ratified.

Day 2: Congress re-enacts the income tax.

Day 3: You challenge the new income tax law in court, but the court says, "sorry, we have no power of judicial review."

My point is: without judicial review, who enforces the Constitution?

56 posted on 10/30/2013 3:50:14 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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