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To: ilovesarah2012

Based on the info presented...not sure if she has a case or not. It would appear on the face of things that the seizure of documents would be inconsistent with a search for firearms. However, back in my LEO days, I never requested or executed a search warrant that did not include some verbiage like “or any other materials or objects evidencing violations of local, State, or Federal ordinances, statutes or laws.”, in the description of what was to be searched or seized.

To that end, this one still seems a bit shaky. Certainly worth a vigorous challenge.


14 posted on 10/25/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: PubliusMM
"I never requested or executed a search warrant that did not include some verbiage like “or any other materials or objects evidencing violations of local, State, or Federal ordinances, statutes or laws.”, in the description of what was to be searched or seized."

WHICH IS IN VIOLATION OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT WHICH STATES ALL WARRANTS MUST BE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT IS BEING SEARCHED FOR.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Particulary describing is important. You can't just say "whatever we find we might think is illegal".

23 posted on 10/25/2013 5:49:07 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: PubliusMM

If I remember correctly and anyone who reads this please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, when Eric Holder was working for Clinton and Reno, this tactic was used to raid Waco. A judge from a neighboring County issued a warrant citing child welfare that was used for BATFE to raid the compound for weapons.


33 posted on 10/25/2013 5:57:18 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: PubliusMM

I never requested or executed a search warrant that did not include some verbiage like “or any other materials or objects evidencing violations of local, State, or Federal ordinances, statutes or laws.”, in the description of what was to be searched or seized.


Fishing trip!


35 posted on 10/25/2013 6:03:56 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: PubliusMM

What crime would her handwritten notes be suspected of being evidence of?

The LE folks, in the middle of the search, asked her if she was the reporter who had done exposes. What crime investigation would require them to ask that information?

Why would they be looking at individual pages inside file folders - when supposedly looking for firearms? They think a firearm is going to be on individual pages in a file folder?

And if there were papers that were of a confidential nature but acquired through a FOIA request, the confidential stuff would have been redacted and it would have been clear that it was legitimately gained. Also, a reporter would certainly have kept the correspondence that came with the FOIA response, to prove it was legitimately acquired. LE would have been able to know on the spot that this was no evidence of a crime.


85 posted on 10/25/2013 10:06:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: PubliusMM
Do LEOs collude with corrupt judges to routinely violate the rights of citizens? You said:
"back in my LEO days, I never requested or executed a search warrant that did not include some verbiage like “or any other materials or objects evidencing violations of local, State, or Federal ordinances, statutes or laws.”, in the description of what was to be searched or seized.

Here is what the US Constitution requires:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]

"anything else that we might find" doesn't comport with the Constitutional requirement that the search warrant "particularly describe" what is being searched for.

The Constitution's meaning is clear. The routine violation of it that you were a party to does not change what the Constitution requires.

90 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:13 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: PubliusMM
So what was the probable cause for "any other materials?" You basically supported trumping up a phony charge as an excuse to find anything against someone you didn't like?

-PJ

94 posted on 10/25/2013 12:17:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: PubliusMM

“or any other materials or objects evidencing violations of local, State, or Federal ordinances, statutes or laws.”

In other words, a Judge approved fishing expedition.


95 posted on 10/25/2013 12:24:45 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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