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CNN: Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and starting over still looking like their best option,....
Hot Air ^ | 2:41 pm on October 23, 2013 | by Erika Johnsen

Posted on 10/23/2013 11:55:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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CNN: Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and starting over still looking like their best option, say more tech experts

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There’s a growing consensus on the mid- to late-November time frame by which the Obama administration really, really needs to have ObamaCare’s online portal running smoothly to avoid inducing more death-spiral risks and subsequent industry panic, and all of their plans for public outreach and directing people to call centers and whatnot is only going to get them so far.

“Tech surge” or no tech surge, CNN reports that still more experts and computer engineers are piling on to the suggestion that fixing HealthCare.Gov’s major problems before the end of 2013 just isn’t a feasible task, and that rebuilding the system from scratch would be the administration’s easiest and safest bet:

After assessing the website, Dave Kennedy, the CEO of information-security company Trusted Sec, estimates that about 20% of Healthcare.gov needs to be rewritten. With a whopping 500 million lines of code, according to a recent New York Times report, Kennedy believes fixing the site would probably take six months to a year.

… Nish Bhalla, CEO of information-security firm Security Compass, said it “does not sound realistic at all” that Healthcare.gov will be fully operational before that point.

“We don’t even know where all of the problems lie, so how can we solve them?” Bhalla said. “It’s like a drive-by shooting: You’re going fast and you might hit it, you might miss it. But you can’t fix what you can’t identify.” …

“Projects that are done rapidly usually have a lot of [repetitive] code,” said Arron Kallenberg, a software engineer and tech entrepreneur. “So when you have a problem, instead of debugging something in a single location, you’re tracking it down all through the code base.”

A whopping 500 million lines of code is “so excessive,” says Kennedy, and that a more normal number for a project like the ObamaCare site would lie somewhere in the range of 25 million to 50 million. Dayum.

Admitting that they screwed up and throwing out more than $300 million taxpayer dollars’ worth of work would be one heck of a politically bitter pill to swallow, but this looks like it’s quickly turning into a damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don’t sort of scenario. Who could’ve seen that coming?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cgifederal; healthcaredotgov; obamacare; obamacaresoftware; obamacarewebsite
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Will the US taxpayer get a 634 million dollar refund from the cronies
who built this beast?


21 posted on 10/23/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Blowing up the Obama Administration and the DemonRAT Senate would be a better start.


22 posted on 10/23/2013 12:10:57 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am officially copyrighting the phrase: Communist Affordable Care Act © (aka CACA because that is what it is CACA)

Everyone involved in its creation and failed implementation is CACA!


23 posted on 10/23/2013 12:13:15 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If Trayvon’s dad could code, this would be the result.

A website from a clueless thug.


24 posted on 10/23/2013 12:15:58 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good afternoon.

I wonder why the idiots that built this debacle, didn't use the VA system that is already operating and, relatively functional? The enterprise wide software handles interfaces with insurers, CSM, medical records, doctors, is scalable, etc.. The only difference would be the Shopping Cart. Probably cost tops, $1M. Conversion training, etc. would take six months.

Never mind, bad idea too...

5.56mm

25 posted on 10/23/2013 12:17:28 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yo CNN, the real story isn’t the website and not being able to sign up. The real story is that if the sheeple could sign up, then they would find out how unafordable the afordable care act really is. But, CNN I suspect you and the folks at the White Hut already knows this and this and the focus on the website is a subtle pivot aimed at distraction.


26 posted on 10/23/2013 12:20:06 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: cork
The ?Executives told the company how they wanted the computers to process .....and were changing their opinions up to the last minute....

The Excutives are to blame....

That would be the HHS Superiors.

This has happened many times in the History of Large Companies implementing Large Complex IT projects.

Nothing all that new here.

Although that estimate of 500 million lines of code seem hugely bloated.

27 posted on 10/23/2013 12:20:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

***Who could’ve seen that coming?***

Really?


28 posted on 10/23/2013 12:21:43 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Revolting cat!; GeronL
Ironically enough, that's the Left's agenda for Amerika.


29 posted on 10/23/2013 12:24:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: tennmountainman

Not only will they not get a refund, but the do-over will cost twice that. Before this is over, we will have dumped $2 billion into a website, and it still won’t work because it will be interacting with systems that are still running UNIX.


30 posted on 10/23/2013 12:27:54 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

Which system might be running UNIX?


31 posted on 10/23/2013 12:33:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

To “start all over” is to admit that NOTHING was learned from the disastrous, mandatory Nationalization of 1/6 th of America’s Economy.

Are any of us FReepers really that STUPID ?!


32 posted on 10/23/2013 12:34:47 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

First...how about a “refund” from all those who received money to market and to create this anti-Freedom, anti-American monster? If they don’t refund every penny...off to prison or deported.


33 posted on 10/23/2013 12:37:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Listen up.. No matter what they do with that web site, it's going to cost 1-TRILLION dollars.

The Democrats will be spending One Trillion Dollars for a web site that will never work.

Oh, and I hope and pray that the Techs on the inside sabotage the hell out of it
the same way they're sabotaging the NSA spy facility in Utah.

34 posted on 10/23/2013 12:40:07 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bloatware maximus


35 posted on 10/23/2013 12:46:05 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: M Kehoe
I wonder why the idiots that built this debacle, didn't use the VA system that is already operating and, relatively functional?

Because there were a whole lot of Obama cronies in the "IT field" with their hands out to grab some of the taxpayer money being given away.

It had nothing to do with real expertise. Same with the Solyndra and the other failed green ventures.

These people know NOTHING about professionalism and expertise. All they know is how to game the system. What do you expect when you have a community organizer in charge?

36 posted on 10/23/2013 12:48:13 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have an idea

A website where insurance companies compete for your business, you put in what you need and they all come back with their prices/rates.

Why hasn’t anything like that ever been done before??

////heavy sarcasm


37 posted on 10/23/2013 12:51:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It would be too much to expect any of these Execs to have read “The Mythical Man-Month”


38 posted on 10/23/2013 12:52:33 PM PDT by Corey Ohlis (Visualize Swirled Peas)
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To: cork
I know very little about this kind of thing. My question is doesn’t the gobmint have any recourse against the company that built this mess

The main contractor is a Canadian firm that doesn't have the best track record according to news accounts. That said, they would just come back and say the requirements kept changing or were incomplete while putting the project together.

39 posted on 10/23/2013 12:53:00 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This mess the result of an axis of evil - Obama, Reid and John Roberts.


40 posted on 10/23/2013 12:55:13 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Let's make Mark Levin's The Liberty Amendments a reality!)
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