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CNN: Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and starting over still looking like their best option,....
Hot Air ^ | 2:41 pm on October 23, 2013 | by Erika Johnsen

Posted on 10/23/2013 11:55:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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CNN: Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and starting over still looking like their best option, say more tech experts

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There’s a growing consensus on the mid- to late-November time frame by which the Obama administration really, really needs to have ObamaCare’s online portal running smoothly to avoid inducing more death-spiral risks and subsequent industry panic, and all of their plans for public outreach and directing people to call centers and whatnot is only going to get them so far.

“Tech surge” or no tech surge, CNN reports that still more experts and computer engineers are piling on to the suggestion that fixing HealthCare.Gov’s major problems before the end of 2013 just isn’t a feasible task, and that rebuilding the system from scratch would be the administration’s easiest and safest bet:

After assessing the website, Dave Kennedy, the CEO of information-security company Trusted Sec, estimates that about 20% of Healthcare.gov needs to be rewritten. With a whopping 500 million lines of code, according to a recent New York Times report, Kennedy believes fixing the site would probably take six months to a year.

… Nish Bhalla, CEO of information-security firm Security Compass, said it “does not sound realistic at all” that Healthcare.gov will be fully operational before that point.

“We don’t even know where all of the problems lie, so how can we solve them?” Bhalla said. “It’s like a drive-by shooting: You’re going fast and you might hit it, you might miss it. But you can’t fix what you can’t identify.” …

“Projects that are done rapidly usually have a lot of [repetitive] code,” said Arron Kallenberg, a software engineer and tech entrepreneur. “So when you have a problem, instead of debugging something in a single location, you’re tracking it down all through the code base.”

A whopping 500 million lines of code is “so excessive,” says Kennedy, and that a more normal number for a project like the ObamaCare site would lie somewhere in the range of 25 million to 50 million. Dayum.

Admitting that they screwed up and throwing out more than $300 million taxpayer dollars’ worth of work would be one heck of a politically bitter pill to swallow, but this looks like it’s quickly turning into a damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don’t sort of scenario. Who could’ve seen that coming?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cgifederal; healthcaredotgov; obamacare; obamacaresoftware; obamacarewebsite
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1 posted on 10/23/2013 11:55:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Perhaps CNN made an error. Should they not have eliminated the characters preceding “Gov”...and leave it at that?


2 posted on 10/23/2013 11:59:24 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And give Senator Cruz a huge win?

LOL.


3 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Buy Now! OR ELSE!

Found at CommonSenseEvaluationsdotcom

4 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
but this looks like it’s quickly turning into a damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don’t sort of scenario...

Let me guess... we could save a LOT of taxpayer dollars if we just recode with less options. Just how many options? Something on the order of, oh, I don't know, like ONE?

5 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:20 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ObamaCare works great! It’s just that damn web site that’s screwing everything up... /sarc


6 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:50 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And the millions and millions already flushed down the toilet ..... what the heck was that .... monopoly money? They had their chance and they blew it .... no more taxpayer money. But of course, they’ll keep wasting money right & left ... no pun intended.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 12:02:48 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“It’s like a drive-by shooting"

Applies to the whole abomination.

8 posted on 10/23/2013 12:03:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and NOT starting over still looking like their best option, says Red Badger...........


9 posted on 10/23/2013 12:04:36 PM PDT by Red Badger (The only way to defeat liberalism is to give them everything they want......then pick up the pieces.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If by “Starting over” they mean scrapping the idea of having government-run plans, and starting to do what would really fix the problem, absolutely.

But I’d not hold my breath. Efforts to actually restore competition and accountability to health care would be opposed by pretty much everyone who profits from the current broken system.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 12:06:00 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As one who develops applications that are delivered to paying customers by means of a website, let me tell you: this is really simple.

Computers are entirely logical, entirely causal. They can't be made to do anything that doesn't make sense. They can't be programmed in such a way as to convert something non-logical into something logical.

They can't be made to make nonsense look sensible.

They can easily be programmed to make something simple look difficult, it is much more difficult to program them to make something difficult look simple.

And it is impossible to program them to make something that's illogical and impossible look like it's logical and possible.

One of the most difficult things to do is to take some concept that makes sense to you at a very high, very abstract level... and make that concept available over the internet to people who don't see your conceptual vision, your "big idea" concept.

The only way that's ever got a prayer of happening is that you have to take your lofty concept and solve every single problem that might arise in reducing your concept to reality. You've got to solve not only every "direct" problem, but every second-order problem that might arise from any possible interaction your lofty concept might have with the "real world," the existing order of things.

Any conflict between your vision - no matter how unlikely you think it is, no matter how obscure you think it is - will inevitably arise when your website goes live. Probably on day one, maybe in the first minute.

Obamacare is fundamentally illogical. It is fundamentally opposed to reality.

Therefore it can never be expressed on a website. Never in a million years.

11 posted on 10/23/2013 12:07:14 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Travis McGee
AND if you order two 0bama 1.0 health care packages today, we will give you a third 0bama 1.0 for FREE! All you have to do is pay the shipping and handling.

WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

5.56mm

12 posted on 10/23/2013 12:07:23 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Saw that earlier, pretty funny,
but Dems say that Americans have waited too long for health care, THEY NEED IT NOW!


13 posted on 10/23/2013 12:08:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LOL !!!

They can’t rebuild it !!!

If they could, it would have been done so in the first place.

Any attempt would be riddled with the same features that this government required from the start.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 12:08:16 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Blowing up HealthCare.Gov and starting over still looking like their best option,....

That is the only way to deal with crap code !

15 posted on 10/23/2013 12:08:50 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I know very little about this kind of thing. My question is doesn’t the gobmint have any recourse against the company that built this mess. I know if I hired someone to build a site for me and this happened they wouldn’t get paid or they would be looking a real nast lawsuit.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Solyndra-esque.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 12:09:24 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Travis McGee
Love IT!

Thanks for posting it!

18 posted on 10/23/2013 12:09:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"who could have seen that coming?"

Those of us at FR did, in full stereo sound and technicolor!

CC

19 posted on 10/23/2013 12:10:02 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

By law, Obamacare had to be implemented by October 1, 2013. There are no procedure in the law to allow for a date extension.

The law was broken.

Start over. Re-introduce the bill in the House, with a date that can be met. If the House cannot pass the bill with a new date, then the issue is dead.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 12:10:04 PM PDT by kidd (No blood for ego)
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