[rsobin]

Are we going to wait until we see our children shot on our front lawns? We are losing a war.

Jesus said to the crowd:

“When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does. And when the south wind blows, you say, ‘It’s going to be hot,’ and it is. Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret the signs of the times?” - Luke 12:54-56

[bert]

Is Bill Clinton the son of Elvis?

[DannyTN]

The only way this is a victory is if one of the following happens as a result:

• more people vote for republicans in the future, to do something about the debt and/or obamacare.
• More people vote for conservative republicans instead of RINOs.
• More people see Obama for the dictatorial politician that he his due to the way the parks were handled.

This was a failure in the following ways:

• Republicans caved and got nothing in return.
• Republicans gave up some control over the debt limit.
• They allowed even more pork.
• They demonstrated they (KY) could be bought and thus are no better than the democrats.
• They gave the Federal employes a free vacation which will presumably end up costing the country more money than if the government continued operating.

[so_real]

I've agreed with the frog-n-pot hypothesis for years. But ... I disagree that this was somehow a "victory". The republicans blinked, not the democrats. One after another the democrats took the podium and repeated incessantly that this was a "republican shutdown". How many republicans in the House took the podium and said "No, we passed a bill. The democrats shut it down"? Few and far between they were. We lost because the spineless RINOs stabbed us in the back and diluted the message. And because the republicans lost, the democrats get to write the history and paint the republicans as "seditionists", and thus dodge their own spotlight as "socialists". This is not a victory. It's a call to battle.

[BenLurkin]

Democrats try to grab for as much as they can get, and Republicans fight back by giving them only half of it—and the result is that government still keeps growing, year over year

Democrats try to grab for as much as they can get, and Republicans fight back by giving them only half of it—and the result is that government still keeps growing, year over year

[blueunicorn6]

How did having 800,000 federal employees not sit at their desks for a couple of weeks affect America? How did it affect you personally?