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Docs worried sick over ObamaCare
The New York Post ^ | October 18, 2013 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 10/19/2013 5:50:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; medicaid; medicare; obamacare; socializedmedicine; unemployment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Medicare already reimburses providers only about 80% of what their costs are - if loony lefties et their way and we end up with single-payer government healthcare insurance, all docs will be broke within months.....


81 posted on 10/19/2013 9:02:56 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Deagle

We’re going to have a whole lot more doctors from Pakistan. Just think, now we’ll have to worry about not only their ability but their real intentions...and my apologizes to the good ones - I’m remembering those doctors/terrorists in England who tried to bomb the airport - in Scotland I believe.


82 posted on 10/19/2013 9:04:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: cynwoody
Lol!

Only in San Francisco.

83 posted on 10/19/2013 9:09:17 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: HotHunt

It’s kind of hard to believe that 12 marathons and over 50 other running events didn’t exacerbate a knee problem, inherited or otherwise, but whatever. That’s a tough sell.

I happen to have an inherited tendency to high LDL as well and guess what — a poor diet makes it worse.


84 posted on 10/19/2013 9:18:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As well they should be.


85 posted on 10/19/2013 9:25:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Aria

Mercy, are we ever going to have Doctors from everywhere on earth that even thinks that wages are better here under these circumstances! Our health system is going to go downhill so fast that it will seem like one of Frances trains going for a record.

All of this will mean that America will no longer be the medical last recourse, nor will they be the inventor of medical progress devices. Our Government is to blame for all of this but the folks, ignorant as they are, will rise up and celebrate the loss.

Medical services (as they use to be known) will definitely be mainly for the wealthy but worst is that the Doctors will be quitting and heck even going to other countries to make a decent living. Why work for a socialist Government when you can do better in other countries.


86 posted on 10/19/2013 9:36:14 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please do not worry about losing drs. We will---but not to worry.

The O Admin plans to remedy that by making licensing easier and by loosening and broadening enrollment in med schools.

Then there will be the thinning of patients by the death panels led by Cas Sunstein et al. Sunstein has already said (written) that children under 13 years should not be allowed expensive medical tretament like dialysis, transplants, etc, because the state does not have enough invested in them before 13 to make it feasible/cost effective. And we all know how he and O feel about old people.

The state no longer serves at our will; rather we are here to serve the state.

vaudine

87 posted on 10/19/2013 9:37:13 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: SpaceBar
"You mean all those smart looking people in white lab coats wearing stethoscopes standing behind the prez when he rolled out this monstrosity were just actors?"

Much worse than actors. Members of the AMA in academic positions and administrative roles.

In other words paper pushing liberal space-wasting hunks of meat, that probably haven't touched a stethoscope in a decade, let alone a real patient.

Only 17% of doctors belong to the AMA. This is why.

The remaining 83% actually work.

We don't have time to jaunt off to the WH lawn and put on a white coat that was just taken out its package.

Some coats still had the creases in them FGS.

88 posted on 10/19/2013 10:46:50 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not “worried sick”: I’m “making plans”.


89 posted on 10/19/2013 11:04:50 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: steve86

I am not trying to “sell” you anything. I am just relating my own experience. You seem to think you know more about my own health history and my family medical history which has trends and my doctors’ advice, than I do. I can only relate again, that I am the only member of my family that was a runner throughout adulthood but all of my three brothers and a sister and my dad had knee replacement surgeries because of worn cartilage in their late 50’s and early 60’s. So I don’t really care what you “believe” you think you know about me.

There is a reason doctors asks for your family medical history when doing your history and physical exams. They are not just being nosy. The information is critical in understanding your own health condition. Cancers tend to run in families. Heart problems tend to run in families. Cholesterol problems tend to run in families. What you do to alter you lifestyle to avoid these issues has very little to do with the fact that you will tend to get the problem anyway because of your genes. Women with breast cancer, usually have other women in their family history that have had it as well. Men who die of heart attacks at a young age, usually are preceded by other male family members that have died young from the same event. And the list goes on.


90 posted on 10/20/2013 1:51:11 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Running marathons and other extremely debilitating forms of exercise increase the likelihood of cancer through the release of free radicals. Running as a form of exercise is extremely tough on the knee joint, even for someone who has no history or inherited condition.


91 posted on 10/20/2013 4:51:11 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Chode
That is an excellent question. I will ask him next time. I won't need to go in for a while and things with obozocare will either have gotten better or gone completely down the drain.

You are right, I don't want to rub his nose in it. I did let him know that I counted on him and trusted him. He told me he appreciated that.

I am hoping he is going to go to a concierge type service.

92 posted on 10/20/2013 5:39:32 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: LostInBayport

I would probably drink but just about any adult beverage I ever tried tastes like mouthwash. Coffee is the same way more or less.


93 posted on 10/20/2013 5:50:52 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: miserare

What medical people I deal with here so far haven’t said anything about changing anything or closing shop.


94 posted on 10/20/2013 5:51:47 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Wouldn't that be the trend regardless?

95 posted on 10/20/2013 5:58:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Undesirables. The socialist solution has been death camps, but now we have obamacare.


96 posted on 10/20/2013 6:16:41 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Ditter
from what i have read, that is what many doc's are thinking about since they don't have to move patients through like an assembly line and can practice the type of medicine they actually had in mind when they started medical school

that and taking all the hassle of insurance companies out of the loop...

i wish you well

97 posted on 10/20/2013 6:46:17 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My liberal, pediatrician, SIL retired early, but she thinks Obamacare is great.

Drives me insane.

98 posted on 10/20/2013 6:50:25 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
$300,000 a year liability insurance he was paying.

I guess we'll go back to having miscarriages the old-fashioned way.

Thanks, progressives™

99 posted on 10/20/2013 6:52:31 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Chode
Some of our family members having been seeing doctors at a private clinic for several years, like you have described.

My dermatologist stopped taking insurance a number of years ago. He is or used to be a freeper, I suspect he is considering retiring right now. It used to be fun to go and see him and discuss FR. He hasn't mentioned it lately.

100 posted on 10/20/2013 6:53:12 AM PDT by Ditter
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